Ramblings of an old Doc
Published on February 23, 2011 By DrJBHL In Personal Computing

 

It turns out that the company sporting the motto "don't be evil" has been asking parents nationwide to disclose their children's personal information, including Social Security Numbers, and recruiting schools to help them do it, all by entering an art contest.

The Contest is called "Doodle-4-Google".  The company is even offering prize money to schools to enlist their help. Google even “OK’s” and “partners with” the following after school activities per their FAQ (I wonder how much who paid whom?):

“The Contest is also open to students who participate in one of the following “After School
Programs” and are also enrolled in a U.S. School as defined above: (i) Boys & Girls Clubs of America; or (ii) Girl Scouts of the USA.” They avoided the Boy Scouts, though.

It sound like fun?  Don't you want your kid to enter too?

OK! Who’s Eligible?

“4. Eligibility. The Contest is open to students enrolled in private or public elementary and secondary schools (grades K–
12) as well as home schools (grades K-12) in the 50 United States and the District of Columbia, excluding U.S. territories
(collectively, “U.S. School(s)”). The Contest is also open to students who participate in one of the following “After School
Programs” and are also enrolled in a U.S. School as defined above: (i) Boys & Girls Clubs of America; or (ii) Girl Scouts of
the USA. Registration opens January 19, 2011. Registration ends March 2, 2011 at 11:59:59 P.M. Pacific Time (PT).
Only one doodle per Entrant is allowed. In the case of duplicate or multiple entries from the same Entrant, then the first
entry to arrive at the designated submission address (as determined by the “received by” date) will be accepted as the entry
into the Contest. Internet access is required to register for the Contest. At the time of submission of a Doodle, each Entrant
must: (i) be a U.S. citizen or a permanent U.S. legal resident (e.g., must be able to show proof of legal permanent
residence, for example, a “green card”); (ii) be enrolled in a U.S. School (defined above); (iii) have obtained his or her
parents’ or legal guardians’ prior permission and have agreed to be bound by these Rules on the Parent Consent Form.”

The reason Google gives for doing this competition in their FAQ says it's because "We love to encourage and celebrate the creativity of young people..." etc. isn’t that nice?

W a i t   a  minute:

A huge database of names and addresses of American children, especially one that includes their dates of birth and SSNs, would be worth many millions to marketing firms and retailers, wouldn’t it?

You see, what Google knows (and many parents don't know) is that a person's city of birth and year of birth can be used to make a statistical guess about the first five digits of his/her social security number. 

“Part of the security problem lies with the method used to assign SSNs. The researchers note that only four digits of the nine digit SSN are random. The first three digits are called the Area Number (AN) and the next two are the Group Number (GN). ANs are allocated to specific states and GNs to specific birth years. Given the date of birth and place of birth, researchers need only guess at the final four digits.” - Alessandro Acquisti and Ralph Gross
Carnegie Mellon University.

So…. with the form you see above, you’ve just given Google your child’s Social Security Number. They don’t even have to guess. And you were worried about computer security?

So: If you can obtain those last four SSN digits explicitly, you've unlocked countless troves of personal information from someone who didn't even understand that such a disclosure was happening. This kind of data can be linked with other databases to target advertising, but Google wouldn’t do that, surely?  Faster than a long tailed tom cat in a room full of rockers, I say.

It's worth many times more than what Google will spend on prizes (each State Finalist gets a T-shirt! The winner gets a Wacom tablet! Wow!). Maybe the TShirt should look like this?

To be strictly fair, Google hasn’t disclosed any such plan, nor has evidence surfaced exposing one. The entry form is one half page followed by five pages of legal mumbo-jumbo in (you guessed it) small print.

Google could have plans to just throw the data away, right? Maybe “the last 4” was inadvertently added to the competition form? There are all sorts of innocent and inconceivable explanations for this, aren’t there? So why (from their FAQ) is “Doodle 4 Google is still designed to work with schools across the nation (public, private and home schools).” Why not schools outside the USA? Maybe because those kids have no “last four”?

So, one question keeps haunting me: “Why the hell does Google need the “last four”?”

Additional links:

http://itmanagement.earthweb.com/secu/article.php/3828716/Social-Security-Numbers-Easy-to-Hack.htm

http://www.google.com/doodle4google/faqs.html


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on Feb 26, 2011

Thanks for bringing it back to OT, natas2.

Yeah, I wondered why the subject went on and on about cell phones... didn't seem relevant.

Then it occurred to me, Google makes a cell phone OS... now that's relevant!

Why does Google want an OS on mobile Phones?

And is that cell phone OS like Google's PC Toolbars that phone home with users history and usage data?

I mean, we're all agreed that Google is in the business of data collection, right?

So, then, why wouldn't Google use its cell phone OS to divulge users information?

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Personally, I'd never own a mobile/cell phone.... and most certainly/definitely not one with Google's Android OS on it... ever.

Don't need one as I have a landline phone within reach 99% of the time, and even then none of the additional features are activated.

I refuse to activate call waiting. incoming call, message bank or answering services.... they cost extra and are not that convenient.

If I don't answer my phone I'm either out or on another call, meaning who ever wants me can call later and it costs neither of us extra.

on Feb 27, 2011

I think cell phones are great. Bluetooth to. For my work it was invaluable. Never missed a call. Not to mention emergencies. Stalled car,

mugging, don't forget to pick up the cat at the vets.....         Not a google phone, first I hear of it.  Frak!

on Feb 27, 2011

Not a google phone, first I hear of it.

Google's cell phone OS is called Android.

on Feb 27, 2011

Thanks   On my not list.

on Feb 27, 2011

Doctors do not have 'customers'. They have 'patients' or 'clients'.

Architects do not have 'customers' either. They have 'clients'.

Lawyers do not have 'customers' as well. Ignoring 'plaintiff' and/or 'defendant', theirs would be 'clients'.

 

Professional careers are not equivalent to some 'burger-flipper' at a fastfood outlet.

It's not ego-tripping, it's just a distinction between Commerce and Professional Practise.....

on Feb 27, 2011

starkers.... re not having a cell/mobile.... I've had one since they were no longer 'brick sized' .... and on at least one occasion averted a multiple on the Tulla freeway when boxes were strewn accross 4 lanes of highway on a blind bend.

We didn't manage to stop a taxi hitting one...but he survived.... or the B-Double who almost fully jack-knifed .... but we cleared the boxes whilst alerting triple 'O'.

The police were most appreciative. Only Terry was pissed that I hadn't scored one of the Imported Italian leather handbags that were in the boxes....

No-one was hurt, but the outcome could have been guaranteed to have been different without immediate communication...

on Feb 28, 2011

starkers.... re not having a cell/mobile.... I've had one since they were no longer 'brick sized' .... and on at least one occasion averted a multiple on the Tulla freeway when boxes were strewn accross 4 lanes of highway on a blind bend.

Ah, but that's where the need does not arise for me.  One, I am no longer able to drive and would imagine my sister, son, daughter or taxi driver would have a mobile should such an occasion ever arise while I am a passenger.  And for the places I am able to walk to from home,  there are several public phones available so I'm always within reasonable distance of phone communication should it become necessary.

Not only that, mrs starkers does have a pre-paid with Optus for the direst of circumstances.... 000 and the like, but I've never as much as picked it up to turn it on, much less ever use it for anything.  Simply put, I just don't like them... too fiddly and small for my liking...and too many damned buttons/functions on the bastards these days.  I just want a simple, uncomplicated device that takes and makes calls and nothing more.  Anything else is superfluous.

Simply put, I will not pay for the privilege of not using the bells and whistles that come with the confounded contraptions, will I!   As it is the new fangled home phone we have has more blasted  buttons and functions than I need or will ever use.... damned call waiting, conferencing, message bank and blah, blah, blah.  If the button doesn't have 1 to 0 on it, or doesn't hang up/open a line, I just don't use it. 

Yes, I like to keep up with the times when it comes to PC's, but I'm pretty old fashioned about a lot of stuff... phones being just one old school item of several.

on Feb 28, 2011

Here you go starkers (although it does have an address book , which if you read the description, you'll get the smiley):

 

http://www.johnsphones.com/

 

http://www.intomobile.com/2010/12/14/johns-phone-review/

 

on Feb 28, 2011

Thanks, natas, but it's still a bloody cell phone.  It's too small for a start... I like something that reaches your mouth and can be spoken directly into [without having to do Lip Olympics on a windy day] while placed beside the ear. 

Besides, I can't get somebody else at the pub to answer it and say: "He's not here?" 

Not like I can when there's no cell and the missus HAS to ring the pub direct.

Nah, it has more to do with not being important enough to be reachable by phone 24/7/365.   There are times when I just want peace and solitude away from the madding crowd.  Sure, I could turn it off to achieve that.... but then there'd be no point of having one.

Look, even the lure of having a ring tone off/vibrating phone in my pants pocket isn't enough for me to own one.

on Feb 28, 2011

my Sony cell phone is so old that the battery needs to recharged every other day. I'd like to get a smart phone just because they're pretty neat but I object to having to pay for their data package fees for internet service that I probably will not use.

SS's, it is required by law that employers verify the residency of their applicants (social security administration). it is required by law that banks tie in the customer accounts to social security numbers or whatever the other IRS identifiers have for businesses (IRS tax laws). hopefully, you don't have to give these daily but once in a blue moon.

you do not have to give your telephone number to transact any business activity except when using a check at check out, just say no, it's a marketing tool anyhow.

I've been asked for my birthdate when purchasing smokes, only at RiteAid. the first and only time this happened I told him 1/1/11. I got a disbelieving look from the clerk and almost launched into explaining the difference between me, at 60+ years and someone who might be 18. I don't go to RiteAid anymore.

If someone asks for your telephone or SS number or other personal data ask them what they need it for and if not providing the information will affect the current transaction. It's your choice whether or not to provide them with it but generally a simple "NO" usually suffices.

on Feb 28, 2011

... It's not ego-tripping, it's just a distinction between Commerce and Professional Practise...

That distinction is fading fast here in the U.S. One early sign I got that I probably was going to have to leave teaching was when a VP at the community college where I was working began a speech at an orientation meeting by talking about "the education industry." I thought I was a new professional hoping to do well by my students, but apparently I was supposed to be a content provider who created the best customer experience I could manage.

And to join starkers' cell-bashing, the things really have done more harm than good to society at large, especially in classrooms where they haven't been successfully banned. Also horrible in restaurants, bars, and theatres. Not to mention how annoying it is to have to guess who might be home in a house instead of just being able to call a house and talk to whoever's there. And then there's the business of being too accessible. Years ago, friends would get all excited because they got a company cell--"free phone, I can ditch my land line." Free my ass--it's a digital ball and chain.

Man, this place sure does spawn some engaging threadjackings...

on Feb 28, 2011

Man, this place sure does spawn some engaging threadjackings...

Free exchange of ideas...sounds nicer.

on Feb 28, 2011

I broke down and bought a cell phone some months ago...just in case I was out and needed help for anything. The phone (Tracfone)...with all the bells and whistles...cost me $20 and service cost me $20 + double minutes for life = 120 minutes...and I hardly use the thing. Why and how people pay so damn much to yak on a phone is beyond me...it seems as though some people need to have the thing glued to their ears. And talk about annoying! Some times I wish I had a nail gun to help them with that process of attaching it.

As far as this doctor/client/customer thing...I'm not even gonna go there...lets just say it wouldn't be pretty.

on Feb 28, 2011

Some times I wish I had a nail gun to help them with that process of attaching it.

hehe.

As far as this doctor/client/customer thing...I'm not even gonna go there...lets just say it wouldn't be pretty.

Probably wouldn't be, from what I know.... I just wish people wouldn't "generalize" a complaint about their own MD ... the vast majority of us are in it to help. Truly. It gives a wonderful feeling to see a person smile and say, "Thank you."

on Feb 28, 2011

Free my ass--it's a digital ball and chain.

Amen brother...I have a work phone and hate the thing.

Good thing is, I live so far out that the cell service doesn't work there.

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