Ramblings of an old Doc
Published on February 23, 2011 By DrJBHL In Personal Computing

 

It turns out that the company sporting the motto "don't be evil" has been asking parents nationwide to disclose their children's personal information, including Social Security Numbers, and recruiting schools to help them do it, all by entering an art contest.

The Contest is called "Doodle-4-Google".  The company is even offering prize money to schools to enlist their help. Google even “OK’s” and “partners with” the following after school activities per their FAQ (I wonder how much who paid whom?):

“The Contest is also open to students who participate in one of the following “After School
Programs” and are also enrolled in a U.S. School as defined above: (i) Boys & Girls Clubs of America; or (ii) Girl Scouts of the USA.” They avoided the Boy Scouts, though.

It sound like fun?  Don't you want your kid to enter too?

OK! Who’s Eligible?

“4. Eligibility. The Contest is open to students enrolled in private or public elementary and secondary schools (grades K–
12) as well as home schools (grades K-12) in the 50 United States and the District of Columbia, excluding U.S. territories
(collectively, “U.S. School(s)”). The Contest is also open to students who participate in one of the following “After School
Programs” and are also enrolled in a U.S. School as defined above: (i) Boys & Girls Clubs of America; or (ii) Girl Scouts of
the USA. Registration opens January 19, 2011. Registration ends March 2, 2011 at 11:59:59 P.M. Pacific Time (PT).
Only one doodle per Entrant is allowed. In the case of duplicate or multiple entries from the same Entrant, then the first
entry to arrive at the designated submission address (as determined by the “received by” date) will be accepted as the entry
into the Contest. Internet access is required to register for the Contest. At the time of submission of a Doodle, each Entrant
must: (i) be a U.S. citizen or a permanent U.S. legal resident (e.g., must be able to show proof of legal permanent
residence, for example, a “green card”); (ii) be enrolled in a U.S. School (defined above); (iii) have obtained his or her
parents’ or legal guardians’ prior permission and have agreed to be bound by these Rules on the Parent Consent Form.”

The reason Google gives for doing this competition in their FAQ says it's because "We love to encourage and celebrate the creativity of young people..." etc. isn’t that nice?

W a i t   a  minute:

A huge database of names and addresses of American children, especially one that includes their dates of birth and SSNs, would be worth many millions to marketing firms and retailers, wouldn’t it?

You see, what Google knows (and many parents don't know) is that a person's city of birth and year of birth can be used to make a statistical guess about the first five digits of his/her social security number. 

“Part of the security problem lies with the method used to assign SSNs. The researchers note that only four digits of the nine digit SSN are random. The first three digits are called the Area Number (AN) and the next two are the Group Number (GN). ANs are allocated to specific states and GNs to specific birth years. Given the date of birth and place of birth, researchers need only guess at the final four digits.” - Alessandro Acquisti and Ralph Gross
Carnegie Mellon University.

So…. with the form you see above, you’ve just given Google your child’s Social Security Number. They don’t even have to guess. And you were worried about computer security?

So: If you can obtain those last four SSN digits explicitly, you've unlocked countless troves of personal information from someone who didn't even understand that such a disclosure was happening. This kind of data can be linked with other databases to target advertising, but Google wouldn’t do that, surely?  Faster than a long tailed tom cat in a room full of rockers, I say.

It's worth many times more than what Google will spend on prizes (each State Finalist gets a T-shirt! The winner gets a Wacom tablet! Wow!). Maybe the TShirt should look like this?

To be strictly fair, Google hasn’t disclosed any such plan, nor has evidence surfaced exposing one. The entry form is one half page followed by five pages of legal mumbo-jumbo in (you guessed it) small print.

Google could have plans to just throw the data away, right? Maybe “the last 4” was inadvertently added to the competition form? There are all sorts of innocent and inconceivable explanations for this, aren’t there? So why (from their FAQ) is “Doodle 4 Google is still designed to work with schools across the nation (public, private and home schools).” Why not schools outside the USA? Maybe because those kids have no “last four”?

So, one question keeps haunting me: “Why the hell does Google need the “last four”?”

Additional links:

http://itmanagement.earthweb.com/secu/article.php/3828716/Social-Security-Numbers-Easy-to-Hack.htm

http://www.google.com/doodle4google/faqs.html


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on Feb 23, 2011

That is just no good.  Talk about a blow below the belt.

Best regards,
Steven.

on Feb 23, 2011

Reminds me of the tobacco companies targeting kids.

on Feb 23, 2011

Except, you know, it tells you right in the FAQ what it needs it for:

Do you have to be a U.S. citizen to participate?
At the time of submission of the doodle, the student must be a U.S. citizen or a permanent U.S. legal resident (e.g., must be able to show proof of legal permanent residence, for example, a “green card”), be enrolled in a U.S. based school and be living in the U.S. He or she must also obtain their parents’ or legal guardians’ prior permission to compete in the contest via a signed Parent Consent Form.

Social Security number is one easy way to verify citizenship.

In addition, the "last 4" of the social security number is probably THE most common way to store information in the database. Given the high volume of expected entrants with the same last/first names, DOB and SSN are the "go to" numbers to make sure you've got the right person.

There's absolutely nothing malicious about wanting the last 4 digits, it's a very common record-keeping procedure.

In addition, you are wrong, while the first 3 digits are associated with the place or residence when you apply for the card (not necessarily place of birth!), the 2 middle digits have absolutely no relation to age:

What The Numbers Mean

The nine-digit Social Security number is divided into three parts. The first three numbers generally indicate the state of residence at the time a person applies for his or her first card. Originally, the lowest numbers were assigned to the New England states, and the numbers grew progressively higher in the South and West. However, in recent years, this geographical relationship has been disrupted somewhat by the need to allocate numbers out of sequence to certain growing and populous states. The middle two digits of a Social Security number have no special significance, but merely serve to break the numbers into blocks of convenient size. The last four characters represent a straight numerical progression of assigned numbers.

http://www.lectlaw.com/files/gvb09.htm

 

In short, get your tin foil hat off Google has more on these kids from their online searches and visited websites than they could ever get from having the last 4 digits of their SSNs.

on Feb 23, 2011

Social Security number is one easy way to verify citizenship.

Nope.

In short, get your tin foil hat off

In short, no personal attacks. The OP was carefully researched, and the Social Security number info as well:

“Part of the security problem lies with the method used to assign SSNs. The researchers note that only four digits of the nine digit SSN are random. The first three digits are called the Area Number (AN) and the next two are the Group Number (GN). ANs are allocated to specific states and GNs to specific birth years. Given the date of birth and place of birth, researchers need only guess at the final four digits.” - Alessandro Acquisti and Ralph Gross Carnegie Mellon University.

on Feb 23, 2011

Meaning no disrespect Annatar11 but if you believe Google does not have ulterior motives in this think again. Google has their grubby little fingers in many a cookie jar. Don't think so then 'google' google and see for yourself.

on Feb 23, 2011

I have had a gmail account for over 5 years, albeit I turned off the search monitoring (apparently).  I guess whenever a person or group gets too much power, they tend to abuse it, even if it doesn't come out (read: if it doesn't become obvious) in the early days.

Best regards,
Steven.

on Feb 23, 2011

Google has only one interest...data aquisition, nothing else.

They will provide any service... for the sole purpose of information gathering...that is of interest to advertisers to whom they will sell.

Once upon a time there were MANY search engines. These days even their name has entered common vernacular.

People 'should' have been leery with the advent [and its marketing] of Gmail.

Why, pray tell, was Google freely "giving" people web storage, etc.?

Why did they use 'gifting' to ensure the take-up was VIRAL?

 

There's exactly ZERO altruism associated with Google.

on Feb 23, 2011

Wasnt there supposed to be some sort of some clause in some law somewhere that specificly disallowes the use of one's social security number for identification purposes? *whistles*

Anyway, it doenst make google evil, it just means that google is doing the same thing everyone else does. but that doesnt make it right.

on Feb 23, 2011

As we discussed, Steven... no reason to ditch your gMail. I believe all the bigboys (MS, Google, etc.) datamine your searches, etc. Bing has even mimicked Google on it's search engine... so, it is what it is, and live with it.

Just know them as best you can. I'm not a Google hater. It's their business, and they're very good at it. I just try to keep them at arm's length as best I can.

Google has only one interest...data aquisition, nothing else.

They will provide any service... for the sole purpose of information gathering...that is of interest to advertisers to whom they will sell.

Once upon a time there were MANY search engines. These days even their name has entered common vernacular.

People 'should' have been leery with the advent [and its marketing] of Gmail.

Why, pray tell, was Google freely "giving" people web storage, etc.?

Why did they use 'gifting' to ensure the take-up was VIRAL?

 

There's exactly ZERO altruism associated with Google.

I believe that... and believe there's exactly zero altruism with any of them: From the start. They're all in it for the money. No love/passion involved.

on Feb 23, 2011

So what people/groups are in it for the love/passion?  Ordinary people?  Privately held companies that haven't got too big?

Best regards,
Steven.

on Feb 23, 2011
I'm sure "Ministry of Truth" would have been too 1984 for a name...so they chose 'Google'....
on Feb 23, 2011

Skinners     

 

I'm sure "Ministry of Truth" would have been too 1984 for a name...so they chose 'Google'....

 

 

on Feb 23, 2011

What do you think about Stardock?

Best regards,
Steven.

on Feb 23, 2011

What concerns me most is the potential of these soc sec numbers being sold to foriegn companies that may be associated or under the thumb of their government's espionage department. Sounds like a good way for them to give the shaft to the tax system of an already ailing superpower.

on Feb 23, 2011

I'm sure "Ministry of Truth" would have been too 1984 for a name...so they chose 'Google'....

Nice. 

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