Ramblings of an old Doc

 

I felt really good when I read gHacks about this topic, since it’s something I’ve been doing for years.

There are two basic situations: The first: You’ve decided that for the type of purchase you’re making, it’s better to have a direct connection to the brick and mortar merchant, and the second: You’ve decided that the discount or local availability dictate you shop online.

For the second, this article doesn’t apply. For the first, there are several ways to pay for things. I maintain that for these, there are five good reasons to use cash, and not a card.

1. Most folks don’t keep careful track of their card purchases and digital payments. This tends to cause budget overages. With cash, all you can spend is what you have with you. It’s easier to keep track of cash:

“A Dunn & Bradstreet study found that people spend 12-18% more when using credit cards than when using cash. And McDonald's found that the average transaction rose from $4.50 to $7.00 when customers used plastic instead of cash.” – SeekingAlpha

Worse, the psychology of credit cards make it easy for you to overspend (and credit card companies like that).

2. Fees and commissions – While you probably don’t have to pay these, merchants do. Unfortunately, that’s reflected in the price you pay for the item. With cash? Never, unless you get it from an ATM (never advisable for monetary and security reasons).

3. Control – You give up control when you use a bank to keep and guard your money, but you give up even more when cash isn’t used.

4. Privacy – Cash purchases can’t be tracked (except by the actual, physical receipt). With card purchases, data is stored and anyone can access/purchase that data.

5. Security – While somewhat related to privacy, with a card, your data is stored at least until the payment is confirmed. That makes it vulnerable at least for a period of time. There are also companies which store the data for a longer period to extract data to sell onward. If you don’t believe me, ask Home Depot, Target, etc. Besides those, the person behind you on line can scan the keypad and take an infrared picture of it and easily obtain your PIN. Btw, there’s a way to protect yourself from that (Here: Gizmodo). There are also other ways to steal your data at the register.

So, while I doubt you’ve been convinced, you still got the low down.

Sources:

http://www.ghacks.net/2014/09/19/why-i-pay-in-cash-and-why-you-should-too/?_m=3n%2e0038%2e1372%2ehj0ao01hy5%2e1f5l

others linked in the article.


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on Sep 21, 2014

I have never examined the studies about cash vs digital payments.  I have used cash for most things for a very long time.  I even use money orders for some purchases to isolate that data stream (unwanted future sales pitches, linking their data base to my personal info, etc).  I made this change about 10 years ago.  I got tired of 'gotcha' aspects of credit cards, and the loan-sharking level of 'fees' associated with same.  Life is much simpler and less stressful since I acknowledged my penchant for overspending when using credit - and switched to doing most transactions with cash. 

on Sep 21, 2014


2. Fees and commissions – While you probably don’t have to pay these, merchants do. Unfortunately, that’s reflected in the price you pay for the item. With cash? Never, unless you get it from an ATM (never advisable for monetary and security reasons).

Good post, but....

 

This is the only point I have trouble with.

I pay the same price in cash as the guy behind me is paying for the same item using a debit/credit card.

 

He pays .89 for a Snickers bar, I pay the same.

 

Now, I agree that the merchant probably charges more because of credit cards/debit cards, but as a cash user, I still pay the price.

 

Some merchants give pennies off for using cash, mostly gas, and some have set limits on how little you can spend using a card.

Example: A local store here has a sign that states you must spend at least 5 dollars if using a card.

on Sep 21, 2014

There are a few stores here that do the same thing, set a minimum amount if using a card. What bullshit.

on Sep 21, 2014

RedneckDude

He pays .89 for a Snickers bar, I pay the same.

So that's why your sugar isn't under control, mister! JK.

The price should actually be lower for cash, and is in some places. Others don't charge the lower price to make as much as they can.

Moral of the story? You can't hack money. No one knows it's your Geo. Washington if it's rag. If it's a card...they make money off you by selling your data as well.

on Sep 21, 2014

DrJBHL

The price should actually be lower for cash, and is in some places. Others don't charge the lower price to make as much as they can.

I have never seen a store/merchant that charges less for cash, except when purchasing gas.

on Sep 21, 2014

I have been to faire stores where they will charge lower prices as it directly affects them how much they get charged for credit card usage rates.  Larger stores just absorb the cost and raise general prices to compensate.  Also at smaller stores you can haggle using cash versus larger stores will tell you the price is the price and tell you to politely take a walk if you try to haggle, at least most of the time.

on Sep 21, 2014

RedneckDude



2. Fees and commissions – While you probably don’t have to pay these, merchants do. Unfortunately, that’s reflected in the price you pay for the item. With cash? Never, unless you get it from an ATM (never advisable for monetary and security reasons).



Good post, but....

 

This is the only point I have trouble with.

I pay the same price in cash as the guy behind me is paying for the same item using a debit/credit card.

 

He pays .89 for a Snickers bar, I pay the same.

 

Now, I agree that the merchant probably charges more because of credit cards/debit cards, but as a cash user, I still pay the price.

 

Some merchants give pennies off for using cash, mostly gas, and some have set limits on how little you can spend using a card.

Example: A local store here has a sign that states you must spend at least 5 dollars if using a card.

 

I Australia the guy using card will pay less. Because for some stupid reason our 1 and 2 cent coins are no longer in circulation.

That means something for 89 cents will be 89 cents via card, but if you pay cash it will be rounded up to 90 cents.

on Sep 21, 2014

RedneckDude


Quoting DrJBHL,

The price should actually be lower for cash, and is in some places. Others don't charge the lower price to make as much as they can.



I have never seen a store/merchant that charges less for cash, except when purchasing gas.

The exception proves what I contend. 

And so what? Aren't the other 4 reasons enough for you?!

on Sep 21, 2014

DrJBHL

Aren't the other 4 reasons enough for you?!

 

RedneckDude

Good post, but....

This is the only point I have trouble with.

That was agreeing with all but one point. 

on Sep 22, 2014

RedneckDude


Quoting DrJBHL,

The price should actually be lower for cash, and is in some places. Others don't charge the lower price to make as much as they can.



I have never seen a store/merchant that charges less for cash, except when purchasing gas.

 

actually, 20 years ago, it was quite common to have a 'cash' discount.   alas, those days a re long gone.

on Sep 22, 2014

ElanaAhova


Quoting RedneckDude,






Quoting DrJBHL,



The price should actually be lower for cash, and is in some places. Others don't charge the lower price to make as much as they can.



I have never seen a store/merchant that charges less for cash, except when purchasing gas.



 

actually, 20 years ago, it was quite common to have a 'cash' discount.   alas, those days a re long gone.

Some places in Australia still do that, mostly electronic/white goods stores and some furniture places.

on Sep 22, 2014

My main problem with cards is that some places charge you x <currency> extra for using cards. I learned some years ago that this is due to stores with cardmachines have to pay monthy or so for having them!!

I thought cards were invented and spread so shopping would be safer but i's obviously combined with making moeny

on Sep 22, 2014

Campaigner

I thought cards were invented and spread so shopping would be safer but i's obviously combined with making moeny
  ....Just follow the bread crumbs, * almost* everything is about making more money...

on Sep 23, 2014

Campaigner

My main problem with cards is that some places charge you x <currency> extra for using cards. I learned some years ago that this is due to stores with cardmachines have to pay monthy or so for having them!!

I thought cards were invented and spread so shopping would be safer but i's obviously combined with making moeny

This may be a breach of contract on their part. It should be explicitly forbidden by the supplier of the card system in use.

 

The only time I use cash is when there's no other choice. Hell, even the hot dog cart accepts cards nowadays. I use it because it's convenient and provides much better opportunities to see how much money you actually spend. If you use cash, I doubt you can be specific down to the cent on how much money you spent on food the last month/year.

on Sep 23, 2014

except unless everyone and dog pays by cash, the merchant will still be forking out for the card fees. they ain't going to be lowering the "increases" due to cards.

 

i believe there are court cases against the likes of visa on the fees they charge (at least in europe). whilst i don't know how much they charge the merchants, whether it's a percentage or flat fee per transaction (on top of any periodic subscription) it would make sense that the lower the price of a transaction, the more costly it is to process it by card (relatively speaking). hence the minimum transaction fee in places.

 

places that charge less for cash nowadays... are less likely to be shops, but rather some cowboy who doesn't pay tax for a job. no cheque/card, no receipt, no records, no tax. or however they cook their books.

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