Ramblings of an old Doc

 

I just got an email from WindowsSecrets.com and felt it important to inform you of potential Update problems. Now normally, I harp on keeping Security and software/drivers updated but this time

Susan Bradley who is a highly regarded writer and reporter has issued a warning about the latest round of updates of .NET from Microsoft:

 

“ .NET is one of the most troublesome updates we deal with.

In case you think you need June's .NET security updates, I'm here to tell you they're trouble — skip them.

The list of known issues documented in KB 2538814, however, is long. In the worst-case scenario, you have to rip out all of the .NET versions on your system using the Aaron Stebner tool. In the least-terrible case, you must run a repair install of .NET 4, if it gets stuck.

Here's what's on offer:

MS11-039 — XP: KB 2478656, KB 2478658, and KB 2478663; Vista: KB 2478657, KB 2478659, and KB 2478663; Win7: KB 2478662 and KB 2478663

MS11-044 — XP: KB 2518864, KB 2530095, KB 2518864, and KB 2518870; Vista: KB 2518863, KB 2518865, and KB 2518870; Win7: KB 2518867, KB 2518870, and KB 2518869 “

- Susan Bradley

Bradley also advises a pass on the latest Office 2010 updates because they didn’t come out in Public Beta yet.

If you don’t update with the .NET patches, the chance for exploitation are very low, according to Microsoft. I‘d advise listening to Bradley and although my update happened before her column was sent (and went uneventfully), pass on these two.

I also advise reading her articles on WindowsSecrets.

 

Source:  http://windowssecrets.com/patch-watch/keeping-you-up-to-date-say-no-to-net-again/

Update:

Daiwa has posted a thread I'm linking here because his problem came from the June .NET update.

Problems from the .NET update can resemble malware infection (superficially) and file corruption. yrag solved this problem

so it's well worth your while to know of the thread's existence:  https://forums.wincustomize.com/411380


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on Jun 30, 2011

My update was done before i read this post. 

on Jun 30, 2011

Mine too... hope yours didn't screw up: Mine didn't. I can only bring news as quickly as it comes to me....

MS really does need to do a better job of this. Their updates really shouldn't be the cause of more problems.

on Jun 30, 2011

Thanks for another great update. You are definitely the doctor when it comes to this stuff.

I don't really get the point of updating as soon as an update is out. All my updates are off until it is required and most time I will try to find info and see how others are handling them but Windows I probably over trust and just do it if I need it. Thanks again for the warning.

on Jun 30, 2011

My update happened already too but no problems. Thanks for the heads up anyway. I was going to dl the tool but after reading all that stuff...uh uh. If I run into a problem I'll just do it the old fashioned way. Use the my Revo or windows uninstaller then go back and get the replacements from cnet. Dumb microstuff anyway.

on Jun 30, 2011

I have had an assortment of problems with the latest .net update. I'll post a list of specifics as soon as I clear everyrhing.

Thanks for the post. This is good advice for all.

on Jun 30, 2011

Thanks for the caution.  As always, I'm happy for the advice from people in the know. 

I havn't updated...   (whew)  ...but for a different reason.  Distant Worlds was a bear to install and get running.  I found I had to run a NET cleaning tool.  After that, DW runs fine.  So I have avoided updating NET because i don't want to mess up DW. 

on Jun 30, 2011

I also ran into problems reinstalling some software, when it came to installing the .net distribution that comes bundled with many installation packages everything failed. Restored my computer from backup, and installation worked again.

on Jun 30, 2011

This MS update problem for .net is not new, so it's kind of disappointing a better way to do it or to check compatibilities hasn't been found, for example a beta for devs.

Just to be very clear, folks: Stardock isn't guilty... and the solution for this lies with MS, and holding off until found.

Support is swamped enough without this.

on Jun 30, 2011

So far i have no problems with it. Running SINS no problem so far. Hope it stays that way.

Thanks for letting us know doc.

on Jun 30, 2011

Did all those already sadly ...

on Jun 30, 2011

The problem with finding issues in updates is they can be inconsistent. For instance the file validation plugin works fine on one computer owns, but not on another. Specifically, it caused Excel to not be able to open a certain file that could be opened on the other. Same version of Excel and both machines had the same updates. Oh and the file was known to be fine.

Have the updates, no issues with .Net.

on Jun 30, 2011

Years ago, MS updates were often problematic.  So much so, that I would not allow customers to download them automatically.  I changed that recently (about a year ago) due to the zero day exploits.  It looks like I am going to have to change it back.  Grrrrrr!!!

on Jun 30, 2011

I did these updates about an hour ago... so far so good.  Hopefully it remains that way.

In future, Doc, would you please post these warnings before I update.

on Jun 30, 2011

LOL.... I only wish I could have told folks yesterday.

I just got an email from WindowsSecrets.com and felt it important to inform you of potential Update problems. Now normally, I harp on keeping Security and software/drivers updated but this time[/quote]

[quote who="DrJBHL" reply="2" id="2959458"]Mine too... hope yours didn't screw up: Mine didn't. I can only bring news as quickly as it comes to me....

"I blame Skinhit."

 

on Jun 30, 2011

hhmm,  On win 7 home Premium 64 bit will check my Win 7 Ultimate 32 bit later

It gave me some of them. as of right now it seems to be working.. 

it gave me

MS11-039 —

Security Update for Microsoft .NET Framework 4 on Windows XP, Windows Server 2003, Windows Vista, Windows 7, Windows Server 2008, Windows Server 2008 R2 for x64-based Systems (KB2478663) Installation date: ‎6/‎15/‎2011 12:02 AM Installation status: Successful
not this one KB 2478662

MS11-044 — 

Security Update for .NET Framework 3.5.1 on Windows 7 and Windows Server 2008 R2 SP1 for x64-based Systems (KB2518869) Installation date: ‎6/‎15/‎2011 12:04 AM Installation status: Successful

Security Update for Microsoft .NET Framework 4 on Windows XP, Windows Server 2003, Windows Vista, Windows 7, Windows Server 2008, Windows Server 2008 R2 for x64-based Systems (KB2518870) Installation date: ‎6/‎15/‎2011 12:04 AM Installation status: Successful
not this one KB 2518867

did anyone get the red ones? and if so are you having problems?

or get the red ones and not the black ones and is ok or having problems?

or all and all is ok or having problems? just trying to see if it is the problem with the red and or black...

 

on a side note but some what related to the OP

I have Office 2010 but have this in my update history

Security Update for the 2007 Microsoft Office System (KB2541012) Installation date: ‎6/‎15/‎2011 12:04 AM Installation status: Successful

why would I get an update for Office 2007 it not installed and never was on this PC

 

 

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