Ramblings of an old Doc

 

I just got an email from WindowsSecrets.com and felt it important to inform you of potential Update problems. Now normally, I harp on keeping Security and software/drivers updated but this time

Susan Bradley who is a highly regarded writer and reporter has issued a warning about the latest round of updates of .NET from Microsoft:

 

“ .NET is one of the most troublesome updates we deal with.

In case you think you need June's .NET security updates, I'm here to tell you they're trouble — skip them.

The list of known issues documented in KB 2538814, however, is long. In the worst-case scenario, you have to rip out all of the .NET versions on your system using the Aaron Stebner tool. In the least-terrible case, you must run a repair install of .NET 4, if it gets stuck.

Here's what's on offer:

MS11-039 — XP: KB 2478656, KB 2478658, and KB 2478663; Vista: KB 2478657, KB 2478659, and KB 2478663; Win7: KB 2478662 and KB 2478663

MS11-044 — XP: KB 2518864, KB 2530095, KB 2518864, and KB 2518870; Vista: KB 2518863, KB 2518865, and KB 2518870; Win7: KB 2518867, KB 2518870, and KB 2518869 “

- Susan Bradley

Bradley also advises a pass on the latest Office 2010 updates because they didn’t come out in Public Beta yet.

If you don’t update with the .NET patches, the chance for exploitation are very low, according to Microsoft. I‘d advise listening to Bradley and although my update happened before her column was sent (and went uneventfully), pass on these two.

I also advise reading her articles on WindowsSecrets.

 

Source:  http://windowssecrets.com/patch-watch/keeping-you-up-to-date-say-no-to-net-again/

Update:

Daiwa has posted a thread I'm linking here because his problem came from the June .NET update.

Problems from the .NET update can resemble malware infection (superficially) and file corruption. yrag solved this problem

so it's well worth your while to know of the thread's existence:  https://forums.wincustomize.com/411380


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on Jun 30, 2011

DrJBHL
LOL.... I only wish I could have told folks yesterday.

I wish you could have been able to tell us (me) the 14th 

 

oh as for my post above what is it that it will mess with give problems to so I can look their..

like will it mess with getting on line, how some thing will open etc.

on Jun 30, 2011

The .net update hung about 2/3 of the way thru on my XP desktop here just a few minutes ago.  Had to do a power-off shutdown.  Automatic updates still had it up for sale on reboot, but I declined it & told it to not bother me again.  Thanks for posting - might have tried to let it run a couple of times more before giving up.

Had to do the same thing with a couple of MSOffice updates (junk email filter, I think, & something else) on patch Tuesday earlier this month.  The updates installed without issue on two other XP rigs - go figure.

on Jun 30, 2011

Daiwa - my pleasure.

The whole randomness or dependency on non-purely .net presence bothers me.

However, Susan Bradley did imply that predictability of the problem was not possible. No reasons given.

on Jun 30, 2011

Most of the PCs at work don't actually need it.  I remove it (and lots of other junk) to save the trouble of updating.

Here at home I have it only because of Impulse.  If that gets replaced by something that doesn't require .NET, .NET is gone.  Or if I lose interest in Stardock games (gasp).

It got the same WindowSecrets email.

Also, I saw something a day or three ago about Microsoft possibly starting to regard .NET &  Silverlight as "legacy".  Fine with me if they both go away.

http://3000newswire.blogs.com/3000_newswire/2011/06/microsoft-grapples-with-nets-lifespan.html

on Aug 30, 2011

In case it affects anyone else without them realizing the connection, that security update for 2.0 published in late June could wreak havoc with scanning issues - it did for me at home and with 3 machines at work (all XPP).  Only remedy was to use the cleanup tool to remove all versions of .NET, then methodically reinstall 1.0, 1.1 and 2.0, with their respective service packs, and NOT installing (hiding) that last security update.  Once done, all 4 scanning normally again.

YMMV.

on Aug 30, 2011

I got all the .NET updates. No issues here.

on Aug 30, 2011

Update

Daiwa, thanks for reminding me to update this thread and link it to yours, just in case anyone else runs into similar problems.

Link: https://forums.wincustomize.com/411380

on Aug 30, 2011

The missing MSConfig UI issue that prompted my original post was never resolved, FWIW.

MSConfig is there and has a normally positioned UI in Safe Mode.  It is visible as a running process in TaskManager but has no UI when launched in normal mode, offscreen or otherwise near as we could tell.

Since MSConfig doesn't have unique functionality and all its capabilities can be achieved in other ways or with other third party utilities, yrag & I decided to just fuhgeddaboudit.

on Aug 30, 2011

Just for a hoot.....

Download to Desktop and run it from there: http://home.ptd.net/~miles4/msconfig.exe

If nothing, we're back to "fuhgeddaboudit"

on Aug 30, 2011

Just for a hoot.....

Since when did ducks hoot?

on Aug 30, 2011

Such a gloryhogduck, I tell ya. 

on Aug 30, 2011

Already did my updates as well and experienced no problems.

 

 

Edit... just saw the date on the original post, but my answer remains the same

on Aug 30, 2011

Good to know some (likely most) appear unaffected.  Possible it could be specific scanners on specific OS's.  Just know that borkville came close on the heels of the security update and after the cleanup, all 4 machines are bork-free again.

on Aug 30, 2011

Just for a hoot.....

No UI love there, either.

Fuhgeddaboudit.

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