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AI will require CPU POPCNT Support; SSE4.2 or SSE4a.
Published on February 17, 2024 By DrJBHL In Personal Computing

For a deep dive into the expected changes to Windows 11, here's an excellent article sent to me by my trusty source Hankers of the Frozen North. Thanks, buddy. You've inspired me in many ways, and have been a great mentor. I expanded on your tip because of the appearance of subsequent additional important articles quoted here.

The Windows 11's 24H2 Update will require hardware that supports POPCNT (SSE4.2 or SSE4a). I remember predicting in a prior article regarding W12, just this kind of turn of events just as W11 upgrade from W10 had requirements re chip, etc.

From the title, it's clear what that requirement is. If you update to 24H2 without your chip having the required instructions, your computer will crash on boot.

So, how to check if your computer's CPU can handle the 24H2 Update? Neowin published an article dealing with just that, although the gHacks article linked goes through the same explanation.

"Option 1: CPU-Z

Download CPU-Z from the official website, run it, and check the Instruction box. Look for SSE4A if you use an AMD processor and SSE4.2 if you use an old Intel chip.

CPU-Z app with some of instructions highlighted

Option 2: Official websites

Go to Settings > System > About and check the "Processor" box. If you use Intel, go to this website and search for your processor model. See the "Instruction Set Extension" and make sure it mentions SSE4.2.

Intel Ark with Intel SSE 42 instruction set highlighted

AMD does not have a single page where you can find specs for every chip the company ever released. Therefore, use third-party websites for CPU tracking, like TechPowerUP. Look for SSE4A in the list of supported instructions or instruction extensions.

Option 3: A simple third-party tool

Enthusiasts have already created apps that can let you run checks and see what specs are missing in your computer. This open-source utility with a witty name, WhyNotWinAI, can show you if your chip supports the POPCNT instruction. You can download it from GitHub for free. Look for the "CPU supports POPCNT instruction" line.

WhyNoWinAI app with the POPCNT instruction set highlighted

If your computer does not support the necessary instruction, this is the end of the road for you. With that said, we will have to wait for the official Windows 11 24H2 release to see if the change sticks around. Meanwhile, you can learn how to install Windows 11 on unsupported hardware using our guide."

Taras Buria, Neowin

 

If your computer's CPU does not fulfill the POPCNT demand, I'd strongly advise not doing the update. Of course, we can expect hackers to try to bypass this requirement, but I would not place much faith in assurances (theirs or others) that their hack will work, because this requirement is quoted as being not bypassable.

Have a great weekend, folks. Here's mine...with the required SSE4.2 as my CPU is Intel.

                                                         


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on Feb 19, 2024

DivineWrath

Another reason to switch to linux...

Or get a more modern computer if interested in AI...

on Feb 19, 2024

Does anyone actually believe that a PC that is over 10 years old is worth salvaging? That seems like a pretty frustrating build to work off of to me.

on Feb 19, 2024

PhoenixRising1

Does anyone actually believe that a PC that is over 10 years old is worth salvaging? That seems like a pretty frustrating build to work off of to me.

Agreed, but as I said above, computers that are from 2008 to now support POPCNT. See the list above.

I'm pushing 7 years on my current Intel, Kaby Lake build, but it's still going strong.   

on Feb 21, 2024

PhoenixRising1

Does anyone actually believe that a PC that is over 10 years old is worth salvaging? That seems like a pretty frustrating build to work off of to me.

I agree with you PhoenixRising1, but its like a Sport to those kind of users. You will see posts on Reddit etc.. from peeps just showing how MS changes can be negated. It would be crazy to put 22H4 on a PC as old as the hills, but those peeps like to Prove A Point and always rise to the challenge when they hear "It Can Not Be Done".

on Feb 22, 2024

DrJBHL

SD also is strongly opposed to "edited"/hacked/pirated, etc. software. So again, don't pursue that topic.

on Feb 22, 2024

Seems i am OK.

on Feb 22, 2024

Dcrew57

Seems i am OK.

Happy to hear!   

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