And what do you bet there'll be new hardware demands to force you to buy a new computer for the OS that'll take a year or more to iron the bugs out of?   

Probably, but no doubt there will be work arounds on github close to day 1 of Windows 12's release.

Hi Doc, possibly will be more HW Reqs, but surely, you now must be a believer in the theory that everything MS does , and if not liked by peeps like myself and others, will be negated and put right back to how the masses prefer it.

I never had any bugs in my Win 11 Enterprise from day one Doc, smooth running, Only problem for me was no WB11, but even that cloud had a silver lining, i discovered Themes.

PhoenixRising1  Hope you are well as i have not seen a lot of activity from you mate.

I don't think the answer to MS's using its OSs as hardware marketing tools is hacking or "patching". We'll continue to be at odds about that because fundamentally, these efforts probably void warranties.

And I think it's safe to say the vast majority of users won't fool with it.  Many (Most?) won't even go through the o/s settings provided by MS to minimize the exposure, researching those and digging them out is enough of a chore in itself.

In all honesty and at the current moment my excitement for Windows 12 is incredibly low. I am having a hard time envisioning why we would even need a new operating system from Microsoft so soon. To me the strategy comes across as a bit of a cash grab for hardware sales. Even with Windows Vista and Windows 8, right now Windows 12 ranks lower then those two in my initial thoughts simply because it's too soon.

Since I am a tech enthusiast, I will probably still try out Windows 12. But nothing is yet saying go out and buy a new PC to take advantage of this new OS.

@Naroon

I am doing well. I am a bit busier then I used to be so I am no longer able to be as active as I used to be here. But I still peak in from time to time.

I'm on Windows 10, and have been for the past seven years or so, I think. Everything works like it's supposed to, and on my main computer I have only done one reinstall and that wasn't even because of a major issue. For me personally, I see no reason to even consider Windows 11, or Windows 12.... The saying don't fix it if it ain't broke keep ringing in my ears. Ask Jafo. He's still on Windows 7, I reckon, and if it fits his needs, why not. I loved W7, and although everything is working great with 10, I miss it sometimes because I dug so deep into it. I'm not as excited as the rest of you guys when a new operating system comes along, simply because I don't need it - yet.

I totally agree with you Jan, but I will be doing WB's for Windows 11 (and 12) so I bought a new and faster PC a while back, just waiting for Stardock to release the needed software.

OK Doc.

As ever i am fully open to other methods of negating the crap MS pushes on us, what would you say is the next best alternative. The Rufus method has been adopted by many users according to some of the forums i use, must still be a lot of peeps who do not have a warranty running on there PCs.

Hello Dave, hope you are well. I agree there are too many peeps who just click yes numerous times during the set up, then do zero more to protect there system, peeps like myself and others delve deep into the OS to keep my Data safe, but there are more and more programs and third party apps that can do the biggest part of this. In fact it is so much of a problem to the savvy user, we are seeing more and more programs hitting the listings daily, so at least plenty to choose from.

Good to see you jumping in when you can.

I will have no choice but to adopt Win 12 as soon as it is a real deal, then the biggest choice for me would be what OSs to use for my Multi Booting System, i would like to say i give equal attention to all 4 OSs on my SSDs, but that would be a blatant lie, Windows 10 with WB10 is my least used by far, had to jump in to it yesterday for the monthly patch Wednesday, and i may not revisit the Win 10 drive until next cumulative update, Win 11 Enterprise has been good to me since day one, so for me that drive was a no brainer for daily use.

For many years now, i have not had a store purchased PC, i am a Techy Guy too, so every system for years has been built by me and is fully bespoke to me, so i never had any intention of running out and following MSs lead of needing new Hardware, that decision is mine and i would never pass that decision over to MS to make for me. I have purchased Laptops for the wife, and when i replace them yo higher spec models, the older ones pass over to me to do my Naroon thing with, whatever that may be at the time.

How true.

This should help those wanting to do so for Windows 10:

https://www.forbes.com/sites/daveywinder/2019/12/21/how-to-secure-microsoft-windows-10-in-8-easy-steps-microsoft-win10-security-tutorial/?sh=6daba40f4ec9

If anyone wishes to add, please feel free to do so.

JanOscar

I am happy you like were you are now, no problem, I do not have any choice in the matter, as an IT Pro, i have to be up to date to offer support for my job. If my job did not dictate the OSs i need to use, maybe i would not have made the move so soon, but as i have previously said, Win 11 has been seamless and bug free since just before it's official launch for me. I like Win 11 as it does everything i need it to do, it's just another tool in my IT box. Plus i am a massive IT fan too, and curiosity always gets the better of me with new IT Stuff and OSs.

Settings You Should Change to Protect Your Privacy on Windows 11

https://beebom.com/change-windows-11-settings-protect-privacy/

https://www.jetico.com/blog/how-take-back-your-windows-11-privacy

https://makmodo.com/stop-windows-11-from-spying/

https://www.geckoandfly.com/25083/free-tools-disable-stop-windows-spying-tracking-you/

The net is full of these self help tutorials, obviously in response to MSs Data Stealing methods, also plenty of apps and programs to do this, but even that choice tells a lot in how a user picks how to go about it. Apps usually means signing in to MS Store, this in itself is a none starter, go the Internet route and choose a Program, so many to choose from, put your homework in when and how you choose what to use. Returning Win 11 to a user safer method of operating is easier than ever with so much help on the net for those that are not sure how to move forward.

My take is that Windows 12 won't be just a hardware-sales strategy, but the next step toward funneling all Windows software through the Microsoft Store so they can take their cut there too.  Won't happen quickly or easily, but they can smell it.