Ramblings of an old Doc
Some cautions and content.
Published on October 3, 2018 By DrJBHL In Personal Computing

I've been reading about this upcoming October update to W10. It won't be especially huge, just the same, 10 or so Gigs might give someone a problem of an incomplete download.

This is a very useful tool for the upcoming W10 October update. You may need this if the above occurs: Windows will not tell you this is happening and Windows might get borked. (https://download.cnet.com/blog/download-blog/microsoft-warns-windows-10-users-to-free-up-storage-space-for-the-big-october-update/?tag=nl.e785&s_cid=e785&ttag=e785&ftag=TRE410dd70).

Make sure you know how to reinstall Windows, and make a disk image BEFORE the update on an external storage device. Use Acronis to clone your disc, and clone your disc before any big update.

Doing this also mitigates any ransomware infection. 

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10

This link also will allow you to download the October update early, although I really wouldn't advise doing so.

MS will start rolling out the update on October 9th.

So what will be in the update How to Geek gives a summary here: https://www.howtogeek.com/353165/whats-new-in-windows-10s-redstone-5-update-available-fall-2018/

 

UPDATE:

W10 Update hit by second file deletion bug:

www.infopackets.com/news/10434/windows-10-hit-second-file-deletion-bug

 


Comments (Page 3)
on Oct 08, 2018

I feel like I been upstaged.   

on Oct 08, 2018

DaveRI


Quoting JcRabbit,

enforcing major updates twice a year



That's the part that I just don't get.  I have no idea what rational could be behind that, even if they all came out flawlessly.  It seems rather pointless really, kind of like constantly re-arranging the office furniture.

the stated rationale for 2 versions a year is that windows should be more modular so that they can improve components easily without huge changes with massive gaps (95->98->xp->7> etc)

the enforced upgrade is somewhat understandable though not necessarily desirable because it'll be easier to maintain fewer versions and places most users (ie the ones who just use the stuff) in the most secure environment.

 

on Oct 08, 2018

alaknebs

the stated rationale for 2 versions a year

Thanks for passing that along.  It doesn't change my opinion though.  Way too much thrashing about on my machine twice a year, for what I perceive to be very little real benefit (as opposed to the occasional Service Pack release method.)  It seems like they're creating a lot of work, everywhere, needlessly.

on Oct 08, 2018

DaveRI


Quoting alaknebs,

the stated rationale for 2 versions a year



Thanks for passing that along.  It doesn't change my opinion though.  Way too much thrashing about on my machine twice a year, for what I perceive to be very little real benefit (as opposed to the occasional Service Pack release method.)  It seems like they're creating a lot of work, everywhere, needlessly.

Yup, way more work than is necessary.  And the fact that they are forced updates that can break users machines is another kind of cyber bullying.  Given the number of people experiencing issues after updates, I'm sure there are millions who fear updates day.

on Oct 09, 2018

I was one of the lucky one's. Mine upgraded without any problems. Now I'm kinda curious of how their going to fix the patch for those who already have it. 

on Oct 09, 2018

ALMonty

Now I'm kinda curious of how their going to fix the patch for those who already have it. 

I'm more interested in how they are going to restore the lost files/work/etc .... and survive the possible class action suit.

on Oct 09, 2018

I'm more interested in how they are going to restore the lost files/work/etc .... and survive the possible class action suit.

Unfortunately their EULA seems to protect them from a class action suit due to lost data. Which is a pity, as I would like to watch them get sued to see if this forced updates every 6 months without proper QA testing madness stops.

If someone has lost data, they are probably sh*t out of luck, as the data seems to be deleted pretty early in the update process and a lot of data is shuffled around after that. I've read that this is particularly worse for SSD users, because, unlike hard disks, SSDs seem to blank out (Trim) the cells where the data was stored once the files are deleted.

on Oct 09, 2018

I'm so happy my current PC runs Windows 8.

on Oct 09, 2018

bear in mind how linux distros have similar upgrade patterns. of course, they are different in that it's not forced and they tell you upfront that if it's working, you don't need to bother changing.

or how chrome os is updated every month, though that's a lot less complex with less hardware variations.

 


I was among the insiders whose complete profiles where emptied after the 1809 update. I reported that, that was about 6 weeks ago... Now I wonder how 'efficient' the insider program really is.

just being curious.. did you mess about with group editor? wondering if anyone not tweaking stuff got hit by the profile delete issue. because that'll tell you how many ordinary users will be hit and how big a problem ms has.

 

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turns out it's not gpe.

https://blogs.windows.com/windowsexperience/2018/10/09/updated-version-of-windows-10-october-2018-update-released-to-windows-insiders/

did you fall under any of those cases?

on Oct 09, 2018

I read that they patched the October update and are re releasing it.

I don't update anymore and on one computer I don't keep the files in the computer.

You might say I live in a world of my own.

 

on Oct 09, 2018

I just got the patch today.

 

October 9, 2018—KB4464330 (OS Build 17763.55)


Improvements and fixes

This update includes quality improvements. No new operating system features are being introduced in this update. Key changes include:
•Addresses an issue where an incorrect timing calculation may prematurely delete user profiles on devices subject to the "Delete user profiles older than a specified number of day” group policy.
•Security updates to Windows Kernel, Microsoft Graphics Component, Microsoft Scripting Engine, Internet Explorer, Windows Storage and Filesystems, Windows Linux, Windows Wireless Networking, Windows MSXML, the Microsoft JET Database Engine, Windows Peripherals, Microsoft Edge, Windows Media Player, and Internet Explorer.

If you installed earlier updates, only the new fixes contained in this package will be downloaded and installed on your device.

on Oct 10, 2018


I read that they patched the October update and are re releasing it.

I'm still going to wait a while before I look at updating, which I will do manually because I'll not activate auto updates again, not after this MS cock-up and my last debacle with programs being uninstalled/made inactive.


I don't update anymore and on one computer I don't keep the files in the computer.

I don't keep important files on my PC, either, and what is on my PC is backed up to external drives that are turned on only as needed.  All my most important files are stored on external drives that again are turned on as required, thus keeping them safe from MS cock-ups.


You might say I live in a world of my own.

Yeah, me too.  I don't get out much these days, and don't get to socialise a lot, so I spend a fair bit of time in my man cave on the computer, talking to other kooks and nut-jobs on WC.

on Oct 10, 2018

Hey!  I resemble that remark.

on Oct 10, 2018

going to ABOUT didn't work.. I will find it ......... I have had no probs now since .... Back then.. No Black screen

 

on Oct 10, 2018

Sed my black screen has been gone for a couple days now too.