Ramblings of an old Doc

 

Tim Cook, is saying “No!”, in thunder to the DoJ.

But…”What if there’s info in there that would help catch terrorists?” That “What if” that makes us decide for ourselves the answer to Ben Franklin’s statement. Tim Cook said “No.” to the Justice Department’s Order to assist the FBI extract data from the San Bernadino terrorist’s phone. Wanna know something? He was right to do so.

Why? Well, for one thing, does it occur to anyone that the FBI has the terrorist’s fingerprint? So, why can’t they unlock the phone? Does it occur to anyone the government has super Cray computers which could have unlocked that phone? Why do they want the backdoor which they’ve wanted for a year at least? Why are they saying this is a “once only” when it clearly is not?

The FBI says it would be a “one time”, and that your device’s security wouldn’t be compromised. Security experts disagree: THEY say it will. Guess who I believe? Why should anyone believe that “one time” nonsense? The NSA collected your data illegally for years. Now? Congress has made it legal. Trust them to take your rights without a fight.

From the moment the FBI was created, J. Edgar Hoover collected dirt on everyone and used it to blackmail Presidents and Congresses and Courts. You think anything has changed? They’ve only gotten better at it, and justifying it because they know they’re dealing with sheep (sorry, Jim). The government has violated your rights with impunity, and poo-poo it, and they’ve done it for years…and will continue to do so.

So, if they can unlock the phone (does anyone really believe they can’t?), why ask a Court for an order? Because they want it “legally” (who doesn’t love a farce?), and more than ANYTHING, they want a PRECEDENT. That is what they MUST NOT obtain. The Bill of Rights stands as an integrated whole. The First, Second and Fifth Amendments most definitely depend upon the Fourth Amendment, and “What if” is Not sufficient reason to violate anyone’s privacy, just as “We want to know” isn’t, either.

The government knows it cannot justify the iPhone search with proof there actually is data there which is critical to the security of America. They are acting out of “What if?”. Well, that’s called a “fishing expedition”. It is inadequate reason for a Federal Judge to grant a search warrant. The Court Order was a serious breach of every citizen’s right to privacy and unreasonable search and seizure. Judges guard the Fourth Amendment jealously. They’d better, because the FBI would be looking at their phones with any imaginary “what if” they could dream up. Not just the FBI: Every local Police Dep’t. could “justify” such a search in a similar manner. Where is the boundary?

“We must, indeed, all hang together or, most assuredly, we shall all hang separately.” – B. Franklin. Well, The EFF and ACLU, Google, Twitter and Facebook are standing with Apple on this. Shaping up to be an epic fight. I hope “We the People” win. “Backdoors” weaken security. They do not strengthen it. If a backdoor exists, ANYONE can exploit it, and will. The CIA has been trying to break into iPhones for years without success. You can bet the FSB and others have, as well.

So, Tim Cook is vowing to fight the DoJ’s Magistrate’s Order all the way to the Supreme Court. So would I: At best? There’ll be a tie, and no way to resolve it. Fitting in a karmic way.

Source:

http://www.engadget.com/2016/02/18/fbi-apple-iphone-explainer/


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on Feb 19, 2016

They might not actually be able to.  If it's designed to wipe itself when tampered with, and it's memory doesn't leave retrievable information after it wipes, then there is conceivably no way to unlock it without the four digit key it supposedly requires.  If it can be tampered with safely, then the tamper proof design is flawed.  I'd assume it's flawed, since people aren't perfect, but who knows, maybe they've actually made it tamper proof.

 

That aside, Fuck the FBI, ATF, NSA, CIA, and any other member of the alphabet soup that wants anyone to give up anything in pursuit of my supposed safety.  I expect to be shot refusing to be disarmed at some point in the next few decades when they repeal the second amendment, zero interest in surrendering what little privacy is left.  Even if I'm just paranoid and I really don't need to worry about it, I'd still be less likely to die to terrorists than I am to medical malpractice, traffic congestion, or even bathing.  Bathtubs, now that's a real danger, we should totally outlaw proper hygiene, if everyone would simply stay away from tubs and showers, we'd save far more people than eradicating terrorism would!

on Feb 19, 2016

Apple updates by wifi...so, loading what the DoJ wants can be done that way, too.

on Feb 19, 2016

 God protect the rights of the terrorist...

 

...above ALL ELSE...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

including logic and/or common sense/humanity

on Feb 19, 2016

MS is also backing Apple on this and so should every living sentient being in the country. Screw the government, they haven't had the best interests of the people in mind for more than a century and I doubt they ever will. Letting an agency have its way leads to disaster. Viet Nam was one, the illegal invasion of Irag was another. If this is too political please feel free to delete and/or move it. 

on Feb 19, 2016


 God protect the rights of the terrorist...

 

...above ALL ELSE...including logic and/or common sense/humanity

 

We defend the rights of all because not to do so will result in the loss of rights for all. 

on Feb 19, 2016

Being a mod kinda sorta, to a tiny degree, requires a bit of a small authoritarian streak, so Jafo. 

on Feb 19, 2016

How much do you trust D.C.? NSA, CIA and all of it. I don't trust them. Those who practice genocide all over the planet.

on Feb 19, 2016

The work of maintaining freedom is hard.  Totalitarianism is much easier.

on Feb 19, 2016

This is a nice masquerade they got going on. If you go back a couple of years the big names (Microsoft, Apple, Google, Facebook etc) were deep in bed with the triple-lettered agencies. About a year and a bit back, warnings start coming in that the big boys might be losing business to places with better privacy. And now this dance and show. Apple sticking up to the man? Give me a break... carefully choreographed but not plausible. The simplest solution to losing money was always just to lie about it. 

on Feb 19, 2016

Ok, so if you think the government is out to get you, why haven't you started a revolution? Why aren't you holed up in a bunker and off the grid if they can track your every move? After all, what's the point of leaving a trail online?

Why didn't you join the folks in the Oregon standoff?

If you can't trust the government, who are you voting for?..and if you vote for them aren't you re-enforcing the current system? Can you trust this candidate to take back the government for the benefit of the people?

If you don't support any candidate, and you think everything is broken, why are you still here? I hear that Canada needs people.

 

Actions (or inaction) speaks louder than words...

on Feb 19, 2016

It's not beyond the pale to consider that this is an elaborate charade to persuade us they can't do what they are already doing, but my scalp is really itching under this TFH.

on Feb 19, 2016

Ben Franklin is quite right!

on Feb 19, 2016

Tim Cook is doing the right thing. And John McAfee is here to help! He will solve this problem or eat his shoe... The agencies can probably do this on their own but they want a legal backdoor. Totalitarian surveillance seems to be high on the wishlist of many politicians.

 

http://news.softpedia.com/news/john-mcafee-i-ll-decrypt-the-san-bernardino-iphone-or-i-ll-eat-my-shoe-500613.shtml

 

 

on Feb 19, 2016

Borg999

Ok, so if you think the government is out to get you, why haven't you started a revolution? Why aren't you holed up in a bunker and off the grid if they can track your every move? After all, what's the point of leaving a trail online?

Why didn't you join the folks in the Oregon standoff?

If you can't trust the government, who are you voting for?..and if you vote for them aren't you re-enforcing the current system? Can you trust this candidate to take back the government for the benefit of the people?

If you don't support any candidate, and you think everything is broken, why are you still here? I hear that Canada needs people.

 

Actions (or inaction) speaks louder than words...

 

Calm down a bit? I don't know how you went from not trusting Apple's spiel to armed takeovers of government facilities... I'm not calling into question the whole system of government.

I own an iphone. I'm happy with it. I'm just not under any illusion that my data on it is in any way safe from snooping eye-gencies (pardon the pun). And I certainly don't buy the image of Tim Cook as making some kind of moral stand against the people he's been in bed with for years.

PS. I'm Swedish. 

on Feb 19, 2016

Daiwa

Being a mod kinda sorta, to a tiny degree, requires a bit of a small authoritarian streak, so Jafo. 

Jafo's here like everyone else 99% mostly...not as a Mod/Admin. [I also sell bridges in Brooklyn].

To be sure, if things start getting out of hand, the expected will happen: So, good to keep that in mind. Remember, Jafo collects scalps.

Jafo also has an Aussie view point which I respect, and agree with all, most some of the time. I too have a large dislike for terrorists of any stripe, but a far healthier respect for our Constitution.

 

Daiwa

The work of maintaining freedom is hard.  Totalitarianism is much easier.

My point, exactly.

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