I've yet to see a compelling reason to switch to W10. Also that 10 years old insinuation   I hope for his sake he was quoted out of context but I somehow doubt it...

My GWX hasn't been affected yet on Windows 7 or 8 thank goodness. I do see though that occasionally, even though i have the update hidden, an update to Windows 10 file will appear in Windows Update, and I have to hide it again. There was even a new one the other day that hadn't been flagged that Microsoft tried to have no install. NO WAY MICROSOFT!! I triple boot, so I have Windows 10, I don't need you trying to force updates on my other OS's!

EXTREMELY POOR BUSINESS PRACTICE! 

They are also conducting a bit of passive aggressive warfare, in addition to the in-your-face-GWX crap.  I no longer get a tray icon letting me know new security updates are available on my Win7 machines set to "Check for updates but let me choose..."  Going on about 3 months now, maybe a bit longer.  There must have been a stealth update along the way that disabled that function as it could only have been intentional.  MS is truly being as obnoxious as they could be.

You're in the Home user group, so all updates are mandatory. Only the Enterprise group can delay installation for testing before deployment.

http://drjbhl.joeuser.com/article/468840/No_choice_mandatory_updates_for_W10_Home_users

I thought those 'groups' only applied once upgraded to Win10, Doc, not to existing Win7 installations.

I'm on Win7 Pro; the updates are available to be installed if I go to Windows Update, I'm just no longer getting the tray icon notification that updates are available.  Tray notifications have been the default in Win7 from the gitgo unless you choose "Never check for updates".  At least until recently.  Not a local machine issue as same behavior is occurring on all 3 of my Win7 Pro rigs.  Again, just a passive-aggressive move by MS to just not quite fully support Win7, a little stone in the shoe for us Win7 folks.

I'm persuaded that part of their strategy is to make staying on Win7 a PIA by any means necessary ("support through 2020" be damned) and that those means will get steadily more overt & actively aggressive over time.

BTW, there is another stealth Win10 upgrade 'update' in the latest batch - KB3112343 - to provide a 'better upgrade experience', of course.  At least it's not labeled as a security update, but it's in the (allegedly) 'Important' batch.

Addendum:

5 of the Security updates in this batch refer to the same, completely vague security bulletin MS16-007 which tells you absolutely nothing about the updates.

I'll take off my TFH & get back to business now.

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I've yet to see a compelling reason to switch to W10. Also that 10 years old insinuation   I hope for his sake he was quoted out of context but I somehow doubt it...

The only compelling reason I see is if you are a gamer and want the performance gains of DirectX12. If it weren't for that, I'd not even consider W10 at this point.

Misunderstood your comment. Thought you were on W10...

I've said it before, but I'll say it again.  I'm riding Windows7 until it's no longer viable, then after that I'm done with Windows.  More and more games are available on Linux and OSX, so I'm content to play there.

It's not happening..... EVER.   I got some Win 10 experience when I tweaked Shaunna's new laptop.... and frankly, that's enough for me.  I don't like that MS changed things, moved things, renamed things, just for the sake of it.  There was no logical reason, other than to make it look like a brand new OS.  Nope, I plain don't like or trust it.

However, I will take the spanking if you pay for the dominatrix.

As for MS, dirty tricks and invasive Win 10 updates, they're not only despicable and obnoxious, they're fechen criminal.   I decide what OS goes on my machines, not MS, and even though I've repeatedly rejected Win 10, they're forever trying to push it on me disguised as important/recommended updates.  I keep hiding the damned things, but to no avail, the next round of updates contain another batch.  I should NOT have to deal with this bullshit... having to check daily to see which kb item is yet another Win 10 update in disguise.

As far as I'm concerned, MS can go fech themselves.  I will not go to Win 10.... and when Win 8.1 support is dropped, well they can stick w Windows up their.... where the sun don't shine.

Microsoft announced Intel's future processors Kaby Lake  will not support Windows 7 and 8 only Windows 10.Wow! thats greedy MS.

For those too young to remember ...

In 2001, Microsoft was indicted and CONVICTED of antitrust practices by bundling in MSIE with Windows as an anti-trust means of dominating rivals (Netscape Navigator, Opera, etc. -- this was before Firefox or Chrome) in the latter half of the 1990s, and caught -THREATENING- OEMs (computer hardware builders -- Dell, IBM, etc.) by making them pay more for Windows licenses if they didn't do as Microsoft demanded in forcing IE as a browser and not selling PCs with alternative OSes such as Linux.

Link:  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_v._Microsoft_Corp.

However, "pro-business" Republicans started sweeping in and tearing out the anti-trust regulations that were put in place to bust up the market-stifling, anti-customer and anti-competitive monopolies of the late 19th to mid-20th centuries such as Standard Oil and Bell Labs (AT&T once basically owned all telecommunications throughout the entire country -- there were no separate regional phone companies, it was all a single monopoly).  This same evisceration of antitrust trade laws also helped enable Enron to buy up energy assets, such as power production and distribution substations in California (though a lot of that was California state-specific deregulation, its arguable the same political maneuvering) which positioned them to artificially constrict the power supply by having its newly acquired production/distribution run "maintenance" (having several shut down), creating the infamous rolling brownouts of 2000/2001 in California; see:  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California_electricity_crisis

Anyway, this growing "pro-business" Republican (really anti-consumer) fuelled by monopolists (executives in giant corporations that have no real competition) and oligopolysts (very limited competition from a few well-entrenched titans prone to collusion) invested more and more into political campaigns, ads and media organizations to stir anti-government regulation sentiment against government regulation and oversight against public and market-unhealthy power exploiting/gouging consumers eventually brought about a nerf of Microsoft's conviction after it had been found guilty of anti-trust behavior.

Basically, big money guys swept into power and neutered the government trying to clamp down on a competition-stifling monopoly, so Microsoft while still convicted wound up with a slap on the wrist compared with the original fines.

And thus Microsoft knows it can pretty much get away with anything, and seems to have continued its pattern of "f--- you customers, we made sure you would not have alternatives, take what we give you" attitude they continue operating on today.

Let's keep political prejudices out of the discussion.

Alternative is that it ends.

I'm ambivalent to win 10.