Ramblings of an old Doc

 

No sooner did we all say that this would be a bad idea, then MS shows us why we were right!

“If you run the latest insider build 10240 of Windows 10 you may have already received update KB3074681 which is a cumulative security update for Windows 10 that Microsoft released on July 25.

The update installs fine on machines running the operating system but seems to introduce several Explorer related bugs at the same time which users may notice when executing different actions on the system.

For instance, when you try to uninstall a program using a double-click in the classic "remove a program" control panel applet, you will notice that Explorer crashes right away.

Others have discovered the same issue when they attempted to disable an active network adapter, and it may very well be the case that there are other crash issues that have not been discovered yet.” – gHacks

There’s a work around in the gHacks article here: http://www.ghacks.net/2015/07/27/kb3074681-highlights-why-mandatory-updates-on-windows-10-are-not-a-good-idea/?_m=3n%2e0038%2e1681%2ehj0ao01hy5%2e1qvp

Martin Brinkmann points out something very true:

“This is not the worst-case scenario, which would be if an update would render the system unable to boot or destroy important files on it, but it highlights why mandatory updates are not a good idea.” – ibid

One hopes MS is listening.


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on Jul 28, 2015

Now we have "Important" update KB2952664, described by MS as follows:

This update helps Microsoft make improvements to the current operating system in order to ease the upgrade experience to the latest version of Windows.

Tells me nothing, and my experience doesn't need easing, so I don't think so.

on Jul 28, 2015

So from reading this thread Windows 10 has about as much chance as being accepted as Windows 8/8.1 or am I missing something?  Will the fact that it's Free be a deciding factor in this?  

on Jul 28, 2015

It won't be 'free' on a new rig.  Wonder if OEMs will continue to offer Win7 as an option once W10 becomes the default new-rig OS?  Hope so.  Surface Pro 3 was in my plan but not so sure now, unless the ability to maintain control over updates is preserved in some fashion.

on Jul 28, 2015

Quoting Uvah,

A more 'human' way to do. Just saw that on a commercial for Win 10.



Win 10 is more a 'Thelma and Louise' way to go....

 

 

 

 

Win 10, hmmmmm......     the word oxymoron comes to mind.....

on Jul 28, 2015


Now we have "Important" update KB2952664, described by MS as follows:


This update helps Microsoft make improvements to the current operating system in order to ease the upgrade experience to the latest version of Windows.



Tells me nothing, and my experience doesn't need easing, so I don't think so.

 

that's part of the nagging upgrade thingy that's been published before quite a few times. (the bulletin article itself is rev 12 i think) could have sworn i have it hidden but it appeared again.. smack in the middle of me playing mmo.. as if my machine isn't too laggy (cpu/ram issue... ) as it is.... as bad as the antivirus checking for update while the game is in windows mode (i suspect it doesn't check for updates if the game is full screen... meh)

on Aug 01, 2015


Now we have "Important" update KB2952664, described by MS as follows:

This update helps Microsoft make improvements to the current operating system in order to ease the upgrade experience to the latest version of Windows. 

 

Kinda like "The bureaucracy is expanding to meet the needs of the expanding bureaucracy." -Civ 4 tech blurb

on Aug 06, 2015

Today's entry in the MS-customer cat-mouse game:

Having previously hidden KB2952664 (see reply #16), it "auto-unhid" itself and was offered up again this morning as an "Important" update.  What was also noteworthy was the absence of the usual SysTray icon alerting one to new updates.  Only knew it was there when I opened the StartMenu, noticed the little shield in the Shut Down button & then opened Windows Update.

They know there is a little war going on.  Keep an eye out for more sneaky moves.

 

on Aug 06, 2015

And then there's SR1 just one week after release....

on Aug 11, 2015

KB2952664 showed up again in today's slew of updates.  Had to hide it for the 3rd time.  Devious, disrespectful bastards, MS.

on Aug 11, 2015


As I mentioned before...WHEN there's a class action suit against them for system failure or file loss due to 'mandatory' update imposition you will see a total arse-about by MS.

 

Doesn't the agreement they make you accept include a waiver to class actions and such? At least if you're in North America anyway.

on Aug 11, 2015

I don't believe any EULA prevents a judge granting class-action status to a lawsuit in the US.  In the same sense that a doctor is not 100% immunized by Good Samaritan laws against lawsuits for negligence, EULA's can't fully immunize a vendor.  Such 'conditions of use' are also counter to common law and historical precedent.  The lawyers who write the EULA's know that, but they put crap like that in there anyway.

on Aug 12, 2015

Wintercross

Quoting Jafo,

As I mentioned before...WHEN there's a class action suit against them for system failure or file loss due to 'mandatory' update imposition you will see a total arse-about by MS.



 

Doesn't the agreement they make you accept include a waiver to class actions and such? At least if you're in North America anyway.

Consumer Protection Laws require a product be fit for its intended use.  That is above and beyond any 'licence agreement'. The MS EULA reference to the 'waiver' for Nth American users means exactly zilch as the product is for world-wide consumption which would enable any user to join a class action initiated elsewhere.

If MS thinks they can get away with an OS systemic failure simply because it was a freebie they probably should spend a few dollars and repopulate their legal department with someone other than Judge Judy....

on Aug 12, 2015

Easy, killer.  We could use more Judge Judys. 

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