Ah....good.  Home users are going to be unwilling/unconsenting beta testers for capitalism.

I'm gleefully looking forward to the inevitable class action suit that will ensue WHEN a forced update goes tits-up and Joe Average is left staring at a blank screen.

IF users manage to get back online the guaranteed most-common search string in Google will be 'Windows 10 rollback' ...

Just after 'Where is that #^%!& Sinofsky now?!'

Fortunately, for me, forced updates are not an issue.  My upgrades will be to Win 10 Pro, which is exempt from enforced updates.

As for Win 10 experience, well to date I have none to speak of.  Can't install it on my tablet/laptop because the BIOS won't permit me to dual boot, and I'm not overwriting my Win 8.1 installation just yet.

The story with my upgraded big beastie isn't a happy one, either.  For the most part it has been waiting on bits n' pieces [rare/hard-to-come-by 2 pin power cables] to fully complete the build.  The last parts arrive about a week ago, but for the last 3 - 4 weeks I've not been able to work on it anyway... and no, it's not because it's so heavy I can't lift it onto a table/work bench.  Yes, it's a heavy bastard, but that's not the reason.  I can get help with that.  No, it's because of the the colder weather and my painful arthritic hands.... cramping up and the fear of dropping stuff that costs waaay too much to replace.

Oh well, it's a good thing I've learned to have greater patience in my old age.  Not so long ago I would have been champing at the bit and getting frustrated over the lack of progress, but nowadays I accept there are things I cannot do, or do as well.  Thing is, this colder weather is short lived and will pass in a few days, so I'll get stuck in then... all things being equal.

Anyway, it's not like I need to hurry to qualify for the free upgrade, which I will get when the time comes.

pro is not exempt. merely gets a grace period.

I haven't even gotten the invite to reserve, even though my PC meets the requirements.

I guess I should count my blessings.

Oh yeah?  That's not how I read it.

I understood that Pro and business editions would be excluded from forced updates to allow IT's to analyse/test prior to company-wide distribution.... thus preventing potential network failures across the board

Oh well, guess I'll find out one way or the other when the time comes.

Pro and Business can hold off installing updates for 8 months (that allows testing and integration by IT Dep'ts...but then they have to install as well.

You can fix that, simply disable secure boot.

Borg999

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I haven't even gotten the invite to reserve, even though my PC meets the requirements.

 

I guess I should count my blessings.

 

 

An invitation is not a demand. Those invited who reserved can still choose not to upgrade.

Okay, so businesses could be stuffed by updates going guts up, then?  Like is that from the launch of Win 10, or per round of updates?

In either event, it seems to me that MS is taking the 'big stick' approach to everyone and forcing them into accepting things they may not want.  When you cut through the glossing over "look at the great things we're doing for you", it's a form of bullying.  Instead of being bullied for your school lunch, you're being bullied into eating a lunch that might make you sick.

Seriously, businesses with large or small networks are likely to shy away from Win 10 if enforced updates have the potential to lose them millions... and/or put them out of business.  In fact, as much I like Win 10's under-the-hood improvements, I am not too sure now if I want to upgrade.  I may do so on one machine just to see how things go, but I'll likely hold off on my other rigs until such time as I'm better satisfied that updates won't entirely bork them.

Still, I am not impressed or happy with MS' 'big stick' approach to this.  The potential for wide-spread system failures is enormous.  I had hoped the leadership changes at MS would herald in a new and better era of MS marketing and products, but alas, the evidence suggests the complete opposite... and it would seem I am far from being alone with this sentiment.  The low level of satisfaction and complaints regarding Win 10 and MS continue to mount, with more people, such as myself, joining the chorus of discord every day.

Oh well, I have copies of Win 7 and 8 that I'm happy with, so it'll be no skin off my nose if Win 10 fails to please.  Also, I've had a bit of experience with a few Linux editions and may even switch a couple of my machines to Ubuntu, Mint or RoboLinux, which allows for the installation of Windows programs and games.

No, cannot do!  The BIOS does not allow it.  The option is there to disable it, but after rebooting it is enabled again, thus allowing only the OS to load.  I tried several times but it just won't let me.  According to a forum piece I read, HP has deliberately done this in accordance with MS wishes to prevent dual/multi booting, whether or not is is another Windows OS.  That's alright, it only has a 128gb SSD and I'm in the process of rebuilding my main rig, on which I'll be able to access all BIOS settings AND dual/multi boot.

well.. you would think in the 8 months, sys admins would have managed to set up a test machine witih the updates to make sure updating won't kill their system and update at their own pace well before that 8 months are up.

surely it's better than something similar to people still using win server 2003 (or whatever it was) even though the plug has already been pulled last week?

No business should be forced to make such changes unless they determine it is in their best interest.  And the business's IT folks should be making that call, not MS.

Odd I have several with UEFI Bios and have disabled SecureBoot with ease.  Hmmm...

 The entire concept stinks.