Ramblings of an old Doc
Published on July 4, 2015 By DrJBHL In Personal Computing

 

Microsoft is simply incapable of “getting it right”.

“Terry Myerson, Microsoft's Windows honcho, says the plebs have to wait in line, behind 5 million "insiders." And volume-license availability won't be until next month, either.” – Richi Jennings

So now this, on top of just who is entitled to a free upgrade to this gem, W10.

“Starting on July 29, MS will start rolling out Windows 10 to our Windows Insiders. From there, we will start notifying reserved systems in waves, slowly scaling up after July 29th. Each day of the roll-out, we will listen, learn and update the experience for all Windows 10 users.

Soon, we will give a build of Windows 10 to our OEM partners so they can start imaging new devices with Windows 10. The new devices our partners are working on are very exciting, I can’t wait to hear your feedback as you get a chance to use them.

Soon after, we will distribute a build of Windows 10 to retailers all over the world, so they can assist their customers with upgrades of newly purchased devices that were originally imaged with Windows 8.1.” – Terry Myerson (MS, Exec VP OSs)

So, this is like Seinfeld when he reserved a rental car, only to discover that car wasn’t available…

“See, you know how to take the reservation, you just don’t know how to hold the reservation. And that’s really the most important part of the reservation, the holding.” – J. Seinfeld

Microsoft has a problem: They can’t write in clear, simple declarative sentences and they don’t do what they say they’re going to do, nor when they say they’re going to do it:

“On July 29, you can get Windows 10 for PCs and tablets by taking advantage of the free upgrade offer.”

This is dishonesty: “On July 29” does not mean “On or soon after July 29”. Never did, never will.

How about “We have a schedule delay” – that wouldn’t be anything new to MS customers. Sorry, folks: I’m just tired of the clowns who can’t get a simple “Who’s entitled to say what and when” straight.

They may be tech geniuses, but they certainly create ugly GUIs and even worse icons and they flunked High School English (and Honesty 101).

Sources:

http://www.computerworld.com/article/2944212/microsoft-windows/windows-10-release-date-delayed-itbwcw.html


Comments (Page 2)
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on Jul 05, 2015

Why would it be bad news?
Most users simply turn off updates since they have no clue what they do mostly because they dont care and dont want to spend time looking up the stuff.
Forcing crucial updates to Home users might be even benefical for them, since they will end up having an up to date protection therefore an overall better experience on windows with less problems.
Of course it is always better to have full control if you like, but there surely will be a fix for it, that more advanced users can make use of.

Only bc of one guy that used the word "force " in his article, now everyone thinks it would be super bad and jumps on it though it were the last pack of crushed ice at 104°F.


 

on Jul 05, 2015

So from Win 8.1 it makes sense to upgrade to Win 10 but not from Win 7. Right?

on Jul 05, 2015

Correct, Uvah.

on Jul 05, 2015

Want to make sure Doc. If all goes well I'll have another laptop soon with Win 8.1 on it. It's one I've been maintaining for a friend. Its less than a year old and I installed MalwareBytes, CCleaner and ASC on it. I left the preinstalled A/V alone...for now.  

on Jul 15, 2015

Yes well they retracted that statement, and you may want to cool off before telling people to get their facts right "Microsoft's" Terry Myerson Clearly stated it was going to be a service, only .... after receiving a blow out of refusals to go in that direction they have changed their mind. and are now charging 250.00 Can for an upgrade..... Still Garbage and if you we up to date on your Facts Sir the Patch they put out in Dec to convert key to win 10 or just erase them or what ever they did Caught my windows 7 cd key, I tried out the upgrading to win 10 over windows 7 and lost my key because ( once blocked you cant get it back as per Microsoft) of it so unless you are in my seat and dealing with the issue i am, then please do not assume your all about knowing my situation, or talk as if your some pudgy little guy still in moms basement assuming you know all. I don't know all and i never will know everything but expanding the power of knowledge is the key development in the human races aspect of growth. when people like you shoot others down you can cause unwarranted mental misbehavior and loss of  self-esteem to others. And seeing as you think most people turn off their updates, well that's just ... well BAD advice.

 

So if your lacking the ability to understand what i have just said ill tell you in simple terms for you Mr benmanns ( No need to belittle people with your comments you may scare them off from sharing info that may be needed for beta testing Data.

on Jul 15, 2015

I downgraded from 8.1 to Windows 7. For the last couple weeks I have been  dual booting 7 and 10. I never thought that I would but I am using 10 more than 7. I am getting use to pros and cons and have it set up so it is not that bad. I still will never get rid of 7 though. I am downloading Windows 10 10240 as I write this.

 

on Jul 15, 2015

I don't see anyone here 'belittling' anyone else, other than comment #20 itself.

Let's just keep things civil...

 

In 'theory' there shouldn't be any issue with MS Key installs and/or reverting to the previous OS version [and its key].

If for any reason a Legal MS Key fails activation due to their database indicating it is already in use there is an option to 'phone Microsoft' [in the occasions I did it was some sheila in India [naturally]] but was quite painless.

Actually...not sure what I did wrong [or right] but I have two computers correctly activated in Windows 7 Ultimate....with the same key.... since December last year, when this machine went live...

on Jul 15, 2015


but I have two computers correctly activated in Windows 7 Ultimate....with the same key.... since December last year, when this machine went live...

Even MS is afraid of the Beast.

on Jul 16, 2015

Really you see nothing wrong in the post #12 .... interesting must be a Buddie of yours then if my employee talked to my customer like that he would be on the EI line right after they said it.

must be an American aspect of looking at things, us Canadian just don't talk to people in that manner unless talk to first. but Hey I'm just a Canadian...

 

on Jul 16, 2015

DI_HAVOC

Really you see nothing wrong in the post #12 .... interesting must be a Buddie of yours then if my employee talked to my customer like that he would be on the EI line right after they said it.

must be an American aspect of looking at things, us Canadian just don't talk to people in that manner unless talk to first. but Hey I'm just a Canadian...

 

I repeat....there is absolutely nothing of concern in post #12.

I am not an American, I am an Australian, and educated in the Queen's English, just as a Canadian would be....

on Jul 16, 2015

DI_HAVOC

Really you see nothing wrong in the post #12 .... interesting must be a Buddie of yours then if my employee talked to my customer like that he would be on the EI line right after they said it.

must be an American aspect of looking at things, us Canadian just don't talk to people in that manner unless talk to first. but Hey I'm just a Canadian...

 

 

Leave Nationality out of it. I am Canadian too and I find both your responses in reply 20 and 24 condescending. I also do not see anything wrong with reply 12. Let it be noted that I am speaking on behalf of myself. I do not know benmanns and I am not buddies with Jafo. 

on Jul 16, 2015

DI_HAVOC

And seeing as you think most people turn off their updates, well that's just ... well BAD advice.

That’s why I said it be might beneficial to force upgrades on certain users, since its a reality that people do start turning off updates once the system slows down.
I did NOT say its good to turn them off or gave the advice to turn them off.

If i offended you with the statement to get your facts right then I’m sorry and apologize... (Note that i wasn’t speaking of last year DEZ. I was speaking of the current known info put out there.)

As for the keys your key might got suspended because it wasn’t considered genuine or already in use.
A simple call can fix the issue that is if you actually own a genuine copy of course.
There is a pretty easy way of testing if you run a genuine copy

CMD
slmgr -xpr should open windows script host - telling you permanently activated
slmgr -dli should tell you if licend or not
slmgr -dlv rearm counter and version.

https://technet.microsoft.com/library/Dn502540.aspx

DI_HAVOC

So if your lacking the ability to understand what i have just said ill tell you in simple terms for you Mr benmanns ( No need to belittle people with your comments you may scare them off from sharing info that may be needed for beta testing Data


Aha ok... it wasn’t my intention, only I’m against misinformation when it reaches a certain amount, it’s just the way I work.
Also i would like to add that i did understand the rest of this post I´m just not replying to it.
DI_HAVOC

Really you see nothing wrong in the post #12 .... interesting must be a Buddie of yours then if my employee talked to my customer like that he would be on the EI line right after they said it.

must be an American aspect of looking at things, us Canadian just don't talk to people in that manner unless talk to first. but Hey I'm just a Canadian...

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Trying hard at the moment not to step over the line, it wouldn’t end up well.
Consider it a lucky day for us both, btw Hungarian living in Germany.
Also please note I’m not an employee I’m just a regular forum visitor if you read my upcomming advice.
My personal advice: it might be beneficial to your business to lose that hint of racism.<---
Have a good day.

 

on Jul 18, 2015

I wonder if win10  will have a bunch of bugs and hidden software to spy on you. Probably, but it has dx12. All that counts.

on Jul 18, 2015

I heve been a user of the tech preview builds for win10 and reieved my full version this morning. I suppose there might be a delay for others, but mine arrived early...sweet

on Jul 18, 2015

Just remember...if you choose the Home path, updates will be mandatory and without delay...so things might very well get "broken". I'd make VERY sure to be doing backups, and often.

 

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