Ramblings of an old Doc

 

W10 doesn’t appeal to me esthetically, but none of MS’s OSs have, so that’s no biggy – or at least not a new biggy.

Anyway, lots of folks seem really happy about “free W10”. That would be W7 and W8.1 users, I guess (because MS hasn’t specifically said) and 8, RT, Vista and XP users are SOL.

“Microsoft said that certain existing "qualified" Windows users will be able to upgrade for free to the new software. But it didn't define who exactly would be qualified or eligible for the update. Some Windows users clearly will be left out; on a blog post, the company noted that "some editions" of Windows would be excluded from the upgrade offer and that it would set certain -- but similarly undefined -- hardware and software requirements for it.” – Troy Wolverton

So, unless you/your computer fit some undefined list somewhere which might get better defined sometime, you too are SOL.

Now then, about the updating after installing W10. It’s going to come via Windows Update (of course). It’s going to happen in the background. Automatically. Doesn’t seem there’ll be a “choice” as to what you update and when, and no one should worry about it because everyone will be on the same version. Ummm…need I remind you guys about .NET updates? How about a borked update of similarly poorly tested Windows updates which MS is famous for? Two of the 3 last updates for W8 and Vista were rejected by users because of flaws!

XP: Currently it’s a good, stable OS (looks like crap but WB, etc. can fix that) but XP wasn’t “Mr. Stable” from its beginning. There were plenty of BSODs. Also SP1, SP2 and SP3 dealt with huge security flaws. SO, when MS finall achieves a stable OS it moves on…to an unstable one.

This is why experts say to hold off on the Windows updates until they can look at them and watch Forums for issues. If MS updates ‘automatically’ you might not have that choice.

I don’t think I’ll be on the first, second or third wagon “updating” to this OS, folks. Not until it’s really clear it isn’t another Vista.

Sorry to be a killjoy but somebody’s got to do it. My thanks to Troy Wolverton for bringing up some of these issues.


Comments
on Jan 25, 2015

I have my update set to not update automatically so I hope that will stop it, but I don't think my hardware will qualify for the update.

on Jan 25, 2015

When/if you install W10, that might not be an option in the W10 Windows Update...or, it might be. Just one of the unclear things from their blog.

on Jan 25, 2015

I'm sure that these and other questions that have not been raised yet will get answered prior to the official release of Windows 10.

Just to add to the list, normally there are several versions of the OS released, usally Basic, Home Premium and Professional.  What will the user be getting with the free Windows 10 upgrade?  Will it see that you have a particular version of your current OS loaded and base the upgraded on that, i.e. I have Windows 7 64 bit Home Premium, will my upgrade to Windows 10 be at the same level?

on Jan 25, 2015

Philly0381

I'm sure that these and other questions that have not been raised yet will get answered prior to the official release of Windows 10.

Just to add to the list, normally there are several versions of the OS released, usally Basic, Home Premium and Professional.  What will the user be getting with the free Windows 10 upgrade?  Will it see that you have a particular version of your current OS loaded and base the upgraded on that, i.e. I have Windows 7 64 bit Home Premium, will my upgrade to Windows 10 be at the same level?


 

A comment I saw on Computer World indicated the free version was for the "home" version.  Professional and Ultimate might not qualify.  That was speculation only but it seems reasonable since they want to continue to charge their enterprise clients.

on Jan 25, 2015

All this just makes it clear that the "free" is going to be for as small a group as they can get away with and still generate enthusiasm/great PR for the "YAY!!! FREE!!!".

on Jan 25, 2015


8, RT, Vista and XP users are SOL.

Technically, yes, but since upgrading from 8 to 8.1 is free, then ....you upgrade from 8.1 to 10 for free. Problem solved, at least for 8 users. No help for the RT, Vista and XP los.. er... users.

on Jan 25, 2015

well, rt is supposed to get some elements of 10.. just not 10

on Feb 03, 2015

Philly0381

I'm sure that these and other questions that have not been raised yet will get answered prior to the official release of Windows 10.

Just to add to the list, normally there are several versions of the OS released, usally Basic, Home Premium and Professional.  What will the user be getting with the free Windows 10 upgrade?  Will it see that you have a particular version of your current OS loaded and base the upgraded on that, i.e. I have Windows 7 64 bit Home Premium, will my upgrade to Windows 10 be at the same level?


I have Win 8.1 Pro so would like to stay with Pro on my main machine if I can.  I have 4 Win 8.1 licenses that qualify for the upgrade, so if it's for Home Premium only then I will go that route for 2 of my machines and just upgrade to Pro via the option in Control Panel for my 3rd.

However, I shan't complain if the update process detects a Pro version and upgrades accordingly.... I'd have 3 Pro machines and a spare license for later on.

I guess the answer to these questions and more will be answered in due course, and in the meantime I'll continue to enjoy my Win 8.1.

on Feb 06, 2015

I'm not sure that there will be so many "flavors" of windows moving forward. Just my opinion, but I think there will be personal and enterprise versions.

on Feb 06, 2015

more than that... eg

http://www.zdnet.com/article/microsofts-windows-10-for-iot-what-to-expect/