Ramblings of an old Doc

 

Don’t hasten to answer until you’ve read this:

http://www.infopackets.com/news/business/microsoft/2013/20130111_hacker_finds_major_loophole_in_windows_8_rt.htm

Turns out a clever hacker (Clrokr) has been running W8 software on A Surface and an RT OS.

MS has described RT as “Similar to W8”. As it turns out, the hacker states they are the same OS only that MS has made RT unable to run W8 software apps. Clrokr has “undisabled” that.

Why do I think MS is trying to sell the same thing twice?

“According to Clrokr, Windows RT and Windows 8 "are the same thing and Microsoft enforces [the installation rules] to artificially separate these platforms ... The decision to ban traditional desktop applications was not a technical one, but a bad marketing decision."” – infopackets

The hack is described as being too difficult to do by most, but has published it.

MS said, "We applaud the ingenuity of the folks who worked this out and the hard work they did to document it."

They haven’t denied Clrokr’s statement regarding the “difference” between W8 and RT, however.

If in fact they really are the same with that “rule” written in by MS, well… that’s not going to be received well by the public. Perhaps even less well than Windows 8.


Comments
on Jan 11, 2013

They have different processors so the same apps generally would not have run anyway without a recompile for the new cpu target so sharing the same name might have caused some degree of confusion.

Having said that I would like for them to open WinRT up to allowing 3rd party desktop applications even if it requires the user to manually ok apps in some way, or enable that option in settings somewhere.

Stardock get the occasional support mail asking if <insert app here> works on Windows RT so even the different name has not avoided confusing people as they see the same Win8 start screen.

on Jan 11, 2013

Neil... you know I take your word as authoritative. Could what this Clrokr be telling the truth?

on Jan 11, 2013

DrJBHL
Neil... you know I take your word as authoritative. Could what this Clrokr be telling the truth?

They will be 99% the same yes, but compiled to a different cpu target.

It is possible there may be some small tweaks for the platform or areas Microsoft opted not to port (if they had lots of ASM in them - pre DX 10 may be missing for example), but basically WinRT and Win8 will share a code base.  To do otherwise would be silly.

By preventing third party desktop applications they also force people into selling via the store only which gets them a 30% cut.  Was that the primary reason, possibly not, as I imagine the desire to avoid virus problems was pretty high on the list too.

on Jan 11, 2013

Neil Banfield
By preventing third party desktop applications they also force people into selling via the store only which gets them a 30% cut. Was that the primary reason, possibly not, as I imagine the desire to avoid virus problems was pretty high on the list too.

Neil Banfield for Secretary of State.  You are way too much a gentleman.

(I know you can't be - it was a figure of speech)

on Jan 15, 2013

If in fact they really are the same with that “rule” written in by MS, well… that’s not going to be received well by the public. Perhaps even less well than Windows 8.

ALl versions of XP, Vista and 7 had the same code - just different options turned on.  That is what is happening here.  I would much prefer 7 on a tablet.  And I hate the store.  But as the tablet was a gift, I am stuck with it.