U.N. Control of The Internet and Taxing U.S. Corporations?

Published on June 10, 2012 By DrJBHL In Personal Computing

So, this was news to me. The U.N. can control and tax the Internet?

ETNO (European Telecommunications Network Operators Association) is asking the U.N. to change international telecommunications regulations to:

“…introduce a new Internet tax that appears to target Web giants like Google and Facebook.” - http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2405560,00.asp

Others could be targeted as well, according to a c|net story this past week (add Apple and Netflix to the list).

Our government has not been silent (thank G-d). Seems to generate the bi-partisanship sorely lacking, usually. From the c|net article:

“Democratic and Republican government officials warned this morning that a United Nations summit in December will lead to a virtual takeover of the Internet if proposals from China, Russia, Iran, and Saudi Arabia are adopted.

It was a rare point of bipartisan agreement during an election year: a proposal that Russian Prime Minister Vladimir Putin described last year as handing the U.N. "international control of the Internet" must be stopped.

"These are terrible ideas," Rep. Fred Upton, a Michigan Republican, said during a U.S. House of Representatives hearing. They could allow "governments to monitor and restrict content or impose economic costs upon international data flows," added Ambassador Philip Verveer, a deputy assistant secretary of state.

Robert McDowell, a member of the Federal Communications Commission, elaborated by saying proposals foreign governments have pitched to him personally would "use international mandates to charge certain Web destinations on a 'per-click' basis to fund the build-out of broadband infrastructure across the globe."

"Google, iTunes, Facebook, and Netflix are mentioned most often as prime sources of funding," McDowell said. Added Rep. Anna Eshoo, a California Democrat whose district includes Facebook's headquarters, many countries "don't share our view of the Internet and how it operates." - http://news.cnet.com/8301-1009_3-57444629-83/u.n-takeover-of-the-internet-must-be-stopped-u.s-warns/

The U.N. has a history of trying to exert control over the Internet (Kofi Annan in 2004 and Yoshio Utsumi in 2008).

The U.N.'s International Telecommunications Union (chartered originally in 1865 to oversee international telegraph regulations) was in 2008 quietly drafting technical standards, proposed by the Chinese (mainland) government, to define methods of tracing the original source of Internet communications and potentially curbing the ability of users to remain anonymous. I wonder why? This showed the tracing mechanism to be used by a government that "tries to identify the source of the negative articles" by an anonymous author.

The latest effort to control the Internet, according to ISOC’s Sally Wentworth (Senior Manager of Public Policy) are not “compatible” with the current open internet policy and Vint Cerf (Google's Chief Internet evangelist, co-creator of the TCP/IP protocol and former chairman if ICANN) said The ITU meeting could lead to ""top-down control dictated by governments" that might impact free expression, security and other important issues.

And that’s what this is all about as well as making a grab for American money and power for people unsuited for it (such as dictators, etc.). The only difference is that it isn’t being done with tanks, but rather taxes and new “rules”.

Mr. Cerf went on to say, "The open Internet has never been at a higher risk than it is now."

My own suggestion about what to do with the U.N. is unprintable. I can tell you that this sort of tax is insane. It will hurt the very countries it’s supposedly trying to help.

This is the old mantra about “the trucks carrying the heaviest loads and using the road the most cause the most wear and should pay for it.”

Answer one: The Internet isn’t a “road”. It doesn’t wear out by information passing over it. But say it were. Get off your lazy butts and build more infrastructure. That will create jobs and lessen the load on the “old road”, won’t it?

Answer two: That tax money won’t be used for any construction of the Internet or widening of it. It’ll be taken by do nothing international diplomats, telecommunications executives and politicians. Oh yes: It’ll probably also find its way to terrorists whose representatives do what they please at that “august” body.

Answer three: The U.N. gets a membership fee from its member states. That’s it. It is not a government which is entitled by legislation and the consent of the governed (namely and mainly us) to tax its citizens (and this will effectively be taxing us, as consumers – the price will be passed on to us, indirectly). I will not be taxed by that useless, parasitic, puppet organization. This tax will further burden our ailing economy.

I suggest you write your Senators and Representatives and let them know how you feel on this issue.

Sources:

http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2405560,00.asp

http://news.cnet.com/8301-1009_3-57449375-83/u.n-could-tax-u.s.-based-web-sites-leaked-docs-show/

http://news.cnet.com/8301-1009_3-57444629-83/u.n-takeover-of-the-internet-must-be-stopped-u.s-warns/

Comments (Page 1)

WOM

on Jun 10, 2012

I say the UN has out lived its usefullness. Close it down, which will not happen because all the countries thatare fighting themselves need it. So the U.S. should withdraw from it and also pull all out troops from europe. They are not needed there anymore. Look at the savings we'd have. No rent and not paying wages to the locals. Didn't we make the internet and gave it to the world?

Yaskel

on Jun 10, 2012

I think you will find the English invented the internet.

Philly0381

on Jun 10, 2012

Damn, I thought it was Al Gore who invented it.

leeboy26

on Jun 10, 2012

Yaskel

reply 2

I think you will find the English invented the internet.

The web. Tim berners-Lee. Also, the first electronic programmable computer (Colossus).

Lantec

on Jun 10, 2012

Yaskel

reply 2

I think you will find the English invented the internet.

I think you will find you are wrong....no one person or group invented the internet. The ORIGIN was with DARPA which is a US thing, but different protocols and standards used today definitely came from other places including England.

Scoutdog

on Jun 10, 2012

Annnndddd...... cue the conspiracy theories.

DsRaider

on Jun 10, 2012

Luckily Canada's Prime Minister, and his political base, are not fans of the U.N. We would withdraw from the U.N way before we allowed it to tax us. Many Canadians feel the U.N is a joke and it does not represent us or our ideals.

DrJBHL

on Jun 10, 2012

DsRaider

reply 7

And how right you would be.

Jythier

on Jun 10, 2012

I didn't realize the U.N. represented any ideals.

Sinperium

on Jun 10, 2012

There has been a big push by Europe over the last few years to "democratize" the internet instead of having the US hold the leading position.

Quite a few times, they've threatened to make a "European net" which would be seperate from the "US net" and charge acces fees to US visitors when they access it. In the past, this was more about, "Europe should be able to administer the internet instead of the US".

Now I think it's more about money and economic control.

Sadly, China for the past few years has threatened the same thing--but for obviously different reasons (i.e., the ability to turn the net on and off selectively and control its content).

Russia has suggested a time or two it was considering the same decisions for mostly the reasons the EU was.

What it comes down to is that the more money that is to be found online, the more and more likely nations will prize it as a financial and political asset and want their own control of it.

The US gets a lot of flak but imagine if China or Russia had been administering the net what sort of "freedoms" you would have. Even the EU with it's heavy political agendaas and strong emphasis on political correctness would no doubt have curtailed some business and site developments we have now.

The golden age of "the net for the people" is coming to an end I think because the same greedy power types that always take over have to do it again--it''s their nature.

StevenAus22

on Jun 10, 2012

Scoutdog

reply 6

Annnndddd...... cue the conspiracy theories.

Or try reading Shirley MacLaine's Sage-ing while Age-ing.

DrJBHL

on Jun 10, 2012

Or the OP and sources.

StevenAus22

on Jun 10, 2012

Well, considering he was talking about theories of the creation of the internet, I was just suggesting a book that might have some, well interesting ones. It was a related topic, but not the same as the OP.

Scoutdog

on Jun 10, 2012

Actually I was talking about the comments in general <clarity> as the UN as a topic is just generally a fountain of them,/clarity>.

Although the creation of the internet side story does seem to edge into a few.

DrJBHL

on Jun 10, 2012

StevenAus... I wasn't referring to your reply specifically. Quite the opposite. You generally relate to my OP's.

I was referring to the comment about "conspiracy theories" specifically, but to more in general.

I find it discouraging that time after time I make a serious effort, and the responses make it painfully clear that at most people skimmed the OP (if even that).

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