Ramblings of an old Doc

 

Unbelievable.

Talk about shooting one’s self in the foot. For me, Windows 8 has gone from bad to worse.

So now, in the ARM version of W8, there will be no possibility of installing a third party browser, per the MS blog (1). So, for x86 systems, free access to all browsers. For tablets with ARM, “No soup for you!” and no “Come back one year.”

MS forgot it said quite the opposite in the past (2). Asa Dotzler won’t let MS forget the page they disappeared either (in the pdf below). Bless you, Mr. Dotzler!

So, third party devs who want to make software for Windows RT, and only create Metro apps for that and thus MS shoots itself in the foot which seems to be in its mouth. So Mozilla and Google climbed on board in expressing their concerns regarding the limitation of user choice and limiting innovation (no surprise there)… and this kind of limitation will prevent MS from the European market, and will probably cause even more litigation. So much for the “ethical company award” it always touts.

MS claims the reason for doing this is that those apps cannot be ported as is because of:

“commitment to longer battery life, predictable performance, and especially a reliable experience over time.

The conventions used by today’s Windows apps do not necessarily provide this, whether it is background processes, polling loops, timers, system hooks, startup programs, registry changes, kernel mode code, admin rights, unsigned drivers, add-ins, or a host of other common techniques. By avoiding these constructs, WOA can deliver on a new level of customer satisfaction: your WOA PC will continue to perform well over time as apps are isolated from the system and each other, and you will remain in control of what additional software is running on your behalf, all while letting the capabilities of diverse hardware shine through.” (4)

Thus, as M. Bormann points out at gHacks:

“This highlights that it is not only about blocking web browsers, but all classic software from running on ARM. What Mozilla and Google criticize is that these restrictions do not apply to Internet Explorer. Other software companies might criticize that it is also not applying to Office, or other first party software that Microsoft integrates into Windows RT. The question here is if the new APIs are as restrictive as Mozilla and Google make them sound to be like.” (5)

You know what?  I’ve stopped caring about Windows 8. It’s a lost cause, and just getting worse.

If anyone could have killed the idea of the Windows Tablet, it was only MS.

 

Sources:

1. http://weblogs.mozillazine.org/asa/archives/2012/05/firefox-on-windows-o.html

2. http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/news/press/2006/jul06/07-19PrinciplesPR.aspx

3. http://lockshot.files.wordpress.com/2012/05/windows-principles-document.pdf

4. http://blogs.msdn.com/b/b8/archive/2012/02/09/building-windows-for-the-arm-processor-architecture.aspx

5. http://www.ghacks.net/2012/05/11/no-third-party-browsers-on-windows-rt/?_m=3n%2e0038%2e516%2ehj0ao01hy5%2eiyk


Comments (Page 2)
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on May 12, 2012

Survival of the fittest. What works you keep (XP and 7) what doesn't work you throw away (Vista and 8). 

on May 13, 2012

I begrudge MS nothing.  They're welcome to do whatever they wish.  Customers will vote with their feet, one way or the other.

on May 13, 2012

DrJBHL
You hit the  the nail right on the head, Cap'n.

Bloody waste of time and effort W8 is... and an ugly one as well.

I have no problem with using 7 as long as it lasts... and when it ends, fine. There's always something else.

Yeah, I'll stick with Win 7 for as long as it's operable/supported, but I'm also looking into Ubuntu for the future as well.

I recently downloaded Ubuntu 12.04 to play with.  I figured it'd make sense to become familiar with it well before Win 7 becomes obsolete.

The other idea I've had is to get a Mac Mini to use with my pre-existing hardware and run OS-X.  That seems to be the best, most cost effective way to enter the world of mac and learn it.

Hopefully MS will learn its lesson from Win 8 and return to a more traditional OS for desktop PC's in time for Win 9.

on May 13, 2012

Did you do a dual boot or have you got Ubuntu on a separate HDD?

on May 13, 2012

Best to do Ubuntu as a dual boot (you can, if you want to try it first, run it from a zip drive)... because then you can install Wine and run Windows apps through it. Problem is, not all apps are 100% compatible.

on May 13, 2012

Did you do a dual boot or have you got Ubuntu on a separate HDD?

At present I have it on a zip drive and run it from there.  However, I have to make some hardware changes later today and I'll then run it from a partition of its own on an internal HDD I plan to put in.

DrJBHL
Best to do Ubuntu as a dual boot (you can, if you want to try it first, run it from a zip drive)... because then you can install Wine and run Windows apps through it. Problem is, not all apps are 100% compatible.

Yep, that's the plan, to dual boot it and install Wine to take advantage of some of my Windows apps.  I have played with Ubuntu in the past, but it has been a while and I'm not overly familiar with it as yet so will need to acclimatise myself to its use all over again, but then that was the idea... become proficient with Ubuntu long before Win 7 becomes totally obsolete.

on May 13, 2012

I tried to install it on a flash drive but it didn't take. Still have the downloader though. BTW - excuse my ignorance but what is Wine? An Ubuntu flavor?

on May 13, 2012

I tried to install it on a flash drive but it didn't take. Still have the downloader though.

I'm not sure why that would be.... possibly a space thing [not enough room]?  Thing is, if you still have the dowload you can install it on an internal partition on your PC, which would give you more options for use, etc.

excuse my ignorance but what is Wine?

Wine is a software interface that allows you to run Windows apps on Ubuntu and other Linux Distros.  It is usually available on the Ubuntu site and other Linux home pages.  Majorgeeks may even have it.

on May 13, 2012

You can install and uninstall Ubuntu with the windows installer (Wubi) makes it a bit easier, Uvah ... and you don't have to stuff around with your hard drive

http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/windows-installer

 "I tried to install it on a flash drive but it didn't take"

http://www.ubuntu.com/download/help/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows

on May 13, 2012

My motivation to switch to Linux increases.

on May 14, 2012

7´th heaven......ringing in my mind for a long time to come OS-wise.

on May 14, 2012

Thanks a bunch guys. I'll have time later on today to mess with it.

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