Ramblings of an old Doc

 

This morning, I was having a cup of coffee while listening to the news and heard this one. I had to investigate (my late father's newspaperman genes).

New legislation (see below) proposes to make EDR’s (black boxes) mandatory for cars starting in 2015. It has passed the Senate already!

To be truthful though, smaller programs already exist. Allstate and Progressive purport to save 10-15% of monthly premiums by “safe driving”:  The Progressive device, called “Snapshot”, rewards drivers who “drive infrequently, or do not accelerate quickly, and who drive during safe drive times” (e.g., not during rush hour traffic). Really?

So, judging by that, you should remain single and work late (what wife and family will tolerate your coming home at 9 p.m. every night) but your boss won’t pay you overtime for that. You should buy a bicycle – not bad, you might get healthy, or die when drivers trying to get home run you over. Accelerating very slowly and become the victim of the road rage you engender in other drivers. So, their “Snapshot” program is a bit absurd, and to qualify for this great deal, you have to be retired, single and on Valium. Oh, and the Corporation will love you, little slave-drone.

Actually, this just proves that the legislation is “industry driven” (read: "campaign contributions", or legalized bribery). The initiative at its base probably wants to eliminate litigation by rooting out ‘bad drivers’ (read: bad insurance risks) and probably turn everyone on the road into an informer (read: “special bonus for reporting dangerous drivers and conditions”). Also, it’ll give the insurance companies tons of data on you which they can and will sell.

If you’re of a more suspicious turn of mind, you quickly realize that you’re being ‘mapped and located 24/7/365’. There might even be a ‘cut off’ switch for your ignition (which might get you and your family killed if it malfunction). Whoops. The plus? A car thief or cheating spouse will become vulnerable.

This sort of brings up the question of just who is going to be authorized (and how, as well as by whom) to access this data? Well, a court order will get you anything, and there are agencies that don’t even need that (well, they might… but in practice?). Obviously, the insurance companies (hey, they started it, right?) and the police, and a divorce lawyer? What happened to your privacy and the (conveniently) narrowly interpreted Fourth and Fifth Amendments?

So now, your car and cell phone can become witnesses against you. Who says this data is incorruptible? I bet there’ll be a way found to alter it. We all know it is not invulnerable. We also know that data is never limited to those authorized to view and use it legally. It is money, and the storage facility is the bank. The Willy Suttons are out there.

So in the “best case” scenario you “save” pennies, which is another deception since you are only “spending” less, while you make a larger profit for the insurance company. Oh yes. I forgot. How much are these devices going to add to the price of a car? Cumulatively, how much Middle-Eastern oil are you going to burn just to carry them around? How much is that when multiplied by the number of cars? How much pollution will that create? Who cares?

In the “worst case” scenario the same data you were adamant not to release to your cell phone company is squeezed out of you by the actions of the corrupt, incompetent politicians who were supposed to be keeping your data private by correct legislation.

Ah, but that would require them to actually do what they’re paid by you to do.

Wait… there’s an “even worse case” scenario. Your data and location are accessed by criminals who follow you to your bank, car jack you, take your car, money and kill you (and anyone else with you) for them.

What shows the mentation of the legislators (and the title of this article) is that this proposed “black box” legislation is attached to a real gem Senate Bill 1813 ES (MAP-21). That’s the one that will allow/mandate the State Department to deny you a passport if you owe the IRS money… check it out here:

http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/112/s1813/text

I’ll be watching this one. Hope you will, too.

 

Source:

http://www.economicpolicyjournal.com/2012/04/big-government-on-steroids-senate-bill.html

http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/112/s1813/text


Comments
on Apr 22, 2012

There might even be a ‘cut off’ switch for your ignition (which might get you and your family killed if it malfunction). Whoops. The plus? A car thief or cheating spouse will become vulnerable.

Might....check these stats out.

Over 60% of the new GMs sold in 2007 came with OnStar installed and that number continue to rise every year. Any factory equipped car with OnStar can be remotely disabled any time they deem necessary.

While so far the police have taken advantage of this and have had vehicles shut off during pursuits with out fatalities, it's only a matter of time before it is used improperly. I just hope that when it happens we don't see too much loss of life.

I now see that OnStar is being installed as an aftermarket add on...I wonder if they are informing the consumer of this feature.

I used to be a GM man but this is yet another reason to buy Ford...the one company that refused to sell out and take "Big Brothers" bail out money.

on Apr 22, 2012


Yep, you should never trust any goverment or company, basic many wicked people seek power, rich, even fame while people who choice not wicked for some reason don't gain power, rich or fame unless it's been given to them. wicked so hard to raiding, control and ruined other people. Sadly people think obey company and goverment is good but it's not and it's cause problem becuase goverment or company are loyal to money, power control, not to people or living thing or even earth.

on Apr 22, 2012

I'm definitely not learning how to drive now!

on Apr 22, 2012

CarGuy1

There might even be a ‘cut off’ switch for your ignition (which might get you and your family killed if it malfunction). Whoops. The plus? A car thief or cheating spouse will become vulnerable.

Might....check these stats out.

Over 60% of the new GMs sold in 2007 came with OnStar installed and that number continue to rise every year. Any factory equipped car with OnStar can be remotely disabled any time they deem necessary.

I now see that OnStar is being installed as an aftermarket add on...I wonder if they are informing the consumer of this feature.

I used to be a GM man but this is yet another reason to buy Ford...the one company that refused to sell out and take "Big Brothers" bail out money.

Mike, this legislative 'gem' affects more than GM. It will affect Ford, and every car made or imported to the USA. I wonder if OnStar records data and what is done with that?


edit:

Scratch that question. Check these out:

http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2011/09/onstar-tracks-you/

http://www.onstar.com/web/portal/privacy#Use

Oh yes, and they "reserve the right to sell your data" name, address and phone number to anyone they choose.

OnStar and LoJack are probably just the pioneers of this invasive technology.

on Apr 22, 2012

I'm not buyin' a car. That's my story and I'm stickin' to it.

on Apr 22, 2012

I'm not buyin' a car. That's my story and I'm stickin' to it.

 

Just buy an older model. *shrugs*

on Apr 22, 2012

No drivers license and no car, I'm just an old fart who has found out you can really do without a lot of things when push comes to shove.  

on Apr 22, 2012

If your car has an OBD computer, and most all new cars do, it is already storing more information about your driving habits than you realize. The question is, just who gets to read that data.

It used to take a Technician and an interface computer or at least a code reader to access them, and they needed to physically access the vehicle.  Now,it can be done remotely with these new systems in the name of "security"  One more reason to love old cars besides points, plugs, carburetors and other things that could actually be worked on by the owner without needing to hook your car up to a computer terminal.

You can't fix electronic ignition on the side of the road with a matchbook and a pulltab from a beer can.....ah, the good old days.

on Apr 30, 2012

The EDR was initially used in 1991 by the National Highway Transportation Safety Administration to determine the information surrounding a vehicle crash. Now, an automotive computer captures a fantastic deal of details regarding driving habits within its crash recorder. In fact, an EDR can even save lives by notifying authorities in the event of a crash, through a service like OnStar. But for some, the EDR represents an unnerving invasion of privacy - and they will be standard in all automobiles by 2013, states the NHTSA. Article source: Event data recorders: Saving lives and invading privacy

on Apr 30, 2012

I heard it's part of the great 'green' initiative.  Our leadership is funny.  They run all these huge campaigns to go green, drive less, bike more etc and then freakout when gas tax revenues fall flat by that said green campaign.

 

So how do we collect our taxes now?  Nobody really expected those idiot voters to actually take our stupid campaigns seriously!

Let's make up for it to collect revenue by the mile instead. 

Sargent Shultz!  Colonel Clink demands you install blackboxes at once!