Ramblings of an old Doc

 

More than that, https strings (the only ‘real’ net security) are tracked as well.

“Trevor Eckhart says he's uncovered a piece of spyware that monitors the phone's location even when location services are disabled, and which logs every keystroke. It ignores the 'Force stop' button and is nearly impossible to remove, he says.” – Emma Woollacott, TGDaily (http://www.tgdaily.com/security-features/59944-secret-key-logging-software-found-on-millions-of-phones)

Trevor Eckhart posted a 17 minute video on Youtube back in September documenting this newest, creepy tracking spyware and how it actually stores urls (http and https) as well as  keystrokes.

You can watch it here:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DgABEzf_oJo

CarrierIQ (the perpetrator) threatened Eckhart with legal action until the Electronic Frontier Foundation intervened and CarrierIQ backed down.

CarrierIQ stated the information gathered was used only for performance improvement to benefit the customer. They stated it does not gather information per se, but Eckhart’s video shows different evidence.

"The information gathered by Carrier IQ is done so for the exclusive use of that customer, and Carrier IQ does not sell personal subscriber information to third parties. The information derived from devices is encrypted and secured within our customer’s network or in our audited and customer-approved facilities." – CarrierIQ

The semantic trick here is that the “customer” is not the user. If pressed, they’ll tell you that well, yes it is by ‘trickle down’ improvement of the network. To that type of response I say, “Horse feathers”.

In fact, I’d love to see full disclosure of that “customer list”. I want to know which carriers are involved in this.

By the way, if it’s not information, what is encrypted and why is it encrypted?

Another take on CarrierIQ’s “benificent” use of this spyware comes from Sophos:

"The company [CarrierIQ] claims the software is designed to help mobile phone carriers to improve their service quality by measuring where calls drop, what applications are causing performance issues and which handsets may have problems on their networks," says Chester Wisniewski of Sophos.

"This may be true, but the inability to opt-out or remove the software without informing the user is extremely concerning. Combine that with all of the sensitive information the software is designed to intercept and it raises far more questions about how this software is being used."

It also raises questions about where this information is going. I believe the public has a right to know this information, and I’ll tell you why:  I bet that the cost of that CarrierIQ garnered info being transmitted is being paid directly or indirectly by the real customer: The poor shmendrick using that cell phone.

I hope the lawyers and government remember that when the (hopefully) legal remedy is applied.

I want to know who authorized this covert, illegal invasion of privacy and how it was done. I want government intervention with stiff jail terms for the criminals who turn our privacy and lives into commodities to be traded for their profit.

I wonder about these “secure customer networks”. Secure? Nonsense.

Verizon has supplied instructions on how to “opt out” of this Google like “program” (url below), but not how to get it off your phone. They also make a point of telling you you will continue to get ads, but they will be “less relevant” to you. The nerve. Tell me how to get it off my phone!

I (for one) demand an accounting. I’m getting really tired of these “entrepreneurs”.

Q - How do you know when you’re being spied on?

A – You’ll see the phrase: “Your privacy is important to us.”

 

 

Source:

http://www.tgdaily.com/security-features/59944-secret-key-logging-software-found-on-millions-of-phones

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DgABEzf_oJo

Instructions on how to “opt out” (but not remove the spyware) for Verizon phones:

https://email.vzwshop.com/servlet/website/ResponseForm?OSPECC_9_0_9hg_eLnHs_uhmpJLE


Comments
on Dec 01, 2011

Another reason I don't have a phone or any of that nonsense. Saw this on yahoo news yesterday.

on Dec 01, 2011

Same here I gave up my Cell phone 3 months ago, I just use it now for 911 when traveling in car as you do not need an account to call 911

on Dec 01, 2011

I like my $10 Tracfone, it's too stupid for "smart" apps like that.

on Dec 01, 2011

excerpt from The Verge: "To date, the user tracking controversy surrounding Carrier IQ has focused primarily on Android, but today details are surfacing that the company also may have hooks into Apple's iOS. Well-known iPhone hacker Chpwn tweeted today that versions at least as recent as iPhone OS 3.1.3 contained references to Carrier IQ and later confirmed it's in all versions of iOS, including iOS 5." The details are still emerging; however, iPhone users will be happy to hear that while it's reported that the software is available to the OS, "the good news is that it does not appear to actually send any information so long as a setting called DiagnosticsAllowed is set to off, which is the default."

- http://yro.slashdot.org/story/11/12/01/1418245/carrier-iq-software-may-be-in-ios-too?utm_source=feedburnerMy+MSN&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+Slashdot%2Fslashdot+%28Slashdot%29&utm_content=My+MSN

on Dec 01, 2011

No phone or a disposable phone will certainly work for some people, but for a lot of us, we need a dependable and full-featured phone. But you don't have to put up with spyware/crapware.

A couple of months ago, I took the plunge: I rooted my phone. Android is a version of Linux and anyone who has used Linux knows, taking root gives you full control over your device. Backed up all my data and applications, wiped, installed a custom ROM. It was relatively painless, I found tutorials that guided me step by step through the process. The key is to back up FIRST, but that is no different than installing any OS. (Can you do a clean Windows install? Then you can do this.)

I have CIQ removed, no spyware, no bloatware. If I tell that using Quadrant, my phone runs more than 50% times as fast, that is no exaggeration.

Not everyone will be comfortable doing this, but then not everyone is comfortable using skinning software or de-crapifying their PC.

But if you do take the plunge, you will never look back.

on Dec 01, 2011

Great advice Larry!   I have yet to take the plunge, but will follow your lead when I do.

on Dec 01, 2011

Excellent, Larry.

Thanks for the reply.

on Dec 01, 2011

Statements regarding CarrierIQ from carriers and device makers @ OSNews

http://www.osnews.com/story/25385/Statements_Regarding_CarrierIQ_from_Carriers_Device_Makers

It will be updated with more responses later on...

 

on Dec 01, 2011

Saw this an hour ago on BBC. Interesting that the smartphone makers themselves seem to be on our side here.

on Dec 01, 2011

Well, CarrierIQ has dropped the suit against Eckhart, and "an expert" came on TV to state that while keystrokes were recorded, they weren't decoded, and no information was transmitted.

What shameless lies they tell. You and I are expected to believe that this software was created and put on phones, information recorded, but never transmitted.

And pigs fly across the universe with rainbows coming out of their rears. I'd believe that before I'd believe that information wasn't taken and peddled.

on Dec 02, 2011

This kind of covert B/S is deplorable and the perpetrators should be de-gonaded with a blunt butter knife and locked up indefinitely.... and NO soap-on-a-rope.

DrJBHL
What shameless lies they tell. You and I are expected to believe that this software was created and put on phones, information recorded, but never transmitted.

And pigs fly across the universe with rainbows coming out of their rears. I'd believe that before I'd believe that information wasn't taken and peddled.

I love a good conspiracy theory, but sadly, there is no theory to this.  This is real world bad guys doing bad things, and all in the name of profit.  For mine, government is betraying the public by not implementing stiffer penalties [any penalties] for this kind of crime... and yes, IT IS a crime to intercept and record personal data intended for someone else.

on Dec 02, 2011

Where they blew it was recording keystrokes and then copying and storing that data elsewhere--all without saying a word to customers.  I guarantee that is in violation of federal law here in the US.

Be interesting to see what comes of it.

on Dec 02, 2011

Uncle Sam may be a lot of not nice things but violating federal law is a big no no, especially this kind. Have to keep up appearances you see.

on Dec 02, 2011

Sinperium
Be interesting to see what comes of it.

 

You'll get an option to "opt out", but still get ads and you'll wonder if it's just off or deleted.

Oh, don't worry... they're busy at work making more "goodies" for your phone, refridgerator, car, printer, etc.

When a market changes, so do the goods.

on Dec 19, 2011

DrJBHL
And pigs fly across the universe with rainbows coming out of their rears. I'd believe that before I'd believe that information wasn't taken and peddled.

Is that where the Aurora Borealis comes from?