Ramblings of an old Doc

Hours after news broke that Hewlett-Packard was considering a spin-off of its PC business, the company also said that it will discontinue support for webOS devices, including the TouchPad tablet. The move also affects webOS-based smartphones. Just last month, HP said it planned to take webOS "global" by naming Steven DeWitt, the head of HP's PC business in the Americas, to lead the WebOS business. Jon Rubinstein, the man who led webOS, was also shifted to senior vice president for product innovation within HP's Personal Systems Group (PSG), which oversees its PCs. HP today said it was exploring "strategic alternatives" for PSG, including a spin-off or other transaction.” – PCMag

OK, I understand that HP only wants to deal with enterprise scale systems and sees stable bucks that way. HP’s PC owners don’t have much to be afraid of since one way or another they’ll be supported.

What was less comprehensible was dumping the “TouchPad” (they’re sitting on a big inventory and offering $100 discounts to buyers). These things looked good, and truly multitasked. Hell, they bought PalmOS for $1.2 billion only a year ago! For those who don’t know, WebOS is based on the PalmOS.

So what’s the deal? Why? Their profitability is good, in the $30 billion per year range.

Then this came to light from Baird and Associates Research:

1. Apple’s iPad remains the item: 93% of tablet owners own an iPad and 94% of potential buyers are considering an iPad. HP comes in a poor second at 10.4% (considering buying).

2. Tablets are viewed as personal devices although 67% viewed possible professional use and only 21% in academic useage where PC usage for large projects would be used.

3. PC cannibalization rate: 17% therefore 83% are saying we’ll be using PC’s for the foreseeable future.

4. Respondents in the 50-60 age group seem slightly less dependent on PCs, with 78% of respondents believing they can do without a computer either today or in the future.

5. Unsurprisingly, 67% of tablet users ranked Web Browsing/Email/Social Networking as their number one tablet use.  Although a higher number of respondents listed eBooks as their number one   tablet use, a larger percent of respondents listing Photo/Video use as their number two and three uses, pushing Photo/Video into second place.  We also note that heavy content creation (use of Microsoft Office, Photoshop, etc.) was at the low-end of responses for tablet usage. We believe difficulty with heavy content creation is one of the largest inhibitors to more pervasive adoption.

The rest really isn’t germane to what’s going on. Now it’s true that their sample was weighted towards mid-west males, in truth I don’t know if more even distribution would have yielded much of a difference.

People want iPads, not much of anything else. For Apple to really kill the PC and Windows OR for another tablet to kill Apple, it’ll have to have to have all of iPad’s current capability, lots more storage, and the ability to handle large programs and graphic apps.

Steve Jobs apart from hating buttons, has no  interest  in doing that. In fact, if he wants to continue selling Airbooks, Macs, iMacs, and Mac Pros he won’t.

So, the way I look at it – the one who does is going to win big time.

And that’s why HP quit for the time being. They’ll probably continue to look at WebOS and develop stuff, but my suggestion? Do the R&D to make parts smaller and smarter so you can pack a desktop into a pad and that’s the way to go…. It’ll handle business, school, connectability, and gaming.

What do you think?

*edit - I.D. has published on this surprising move as well: https://forums.wincustomize.com/411337


Comments
on Aug 19, 2011

Also price, this can be a major factor in getting people to buy something other than a iPad. The real problem is not many people know what an Android Tablet is compared to an iPad. The name iPad is catchy and is related to the iPhone and iPod so it already has a huge user base and fame where as no one has ever heard of an android version of the iPod (except for the Samsung Galaxy Player that's not here yet, I think) and android phones although there are plenty out there are not well known either. Especially since there is no catchy name for them like the iPhone. heck, even I can't come up with one right now.

on Aug 19, 2011

How can 93% of tablet owners have iPads and 10% have HP... um, that's 103%. And that's not even including the percentage of all the other tablets out there. Something's wrong with those stats....

on Aug 19, 2011

What do you think?

Crap, I forgot, hold on it will come back to me. 

on Aug 19, 2011

RPGFX
How can 93% of tablet owners have iPads and 10% have HP... um, that's 103%. And that's not even including the percentage of all the other tablets out there. Something's wrong with those stats....

93% of those owning pads HAVE iPads.

10.4% of POTENTIAL pad buyers are considering buying an HP Touchpad (and this question allowed multiple choices).

"Current tablet owners and prospective buyers alike overwhelmingly have their eyes on just one company's device for future purchases—Apple's iPad. Some 93 percent of consumers who already own a tablet own an iPad, according to a new survey from Baird Research & Insights, while more than 94 percent of potential purchasers are considering buying an Apple tablet.

Coming in a distant second was Hewlett-Packard's TouchPad with webOS, named by 10.4 percent of respondents as a tablet they would consider buying, according to the Baird survey (table below). Given that respondents were allowed to give multiple responses in naming a tablet they'd consider buying, HP probably shouldn't get too complacent about its second-place finish." - PCMag

 

 

 

 

on Aug 19, 2011

It is not the first time HP has bailed.

on Aug 19, 2011

Don't worry.  The Amalgamated Federation of WebOS Developers will simply petition the NLRB which will issue an injunction forcing HP to continue development & support of their products in the interest of the public.

on Aug 19, 2011

Me thinks this answers it,the last paragraph of first excerpt from article at AD,way i see it there's less cost involved in developing software than maintaining dev on hardware & machinery

 

HP has confirmed today it is looking to spin off its PC business.
The spin-off, along with a $10 billion purchase of Autonomy Corp., are expected to be announced today or tomorrow.

Autonomy is an enterprise software company that "develops a variety of enterprise search and knowledge management applications using adaptive pattern recognition techniques centered on Bayesian inference in conjunction with traditional methods."

A few of its customers include multinationals like Coca-Cola and Nestle.

HP has been looking to expand into software and the cloud, which historically have higher margins than PCs.

http://www.afterdawn.com/news/article.cfm/2011/08/18/hp_to_spin_off_its_pc_business 

 

Last April, HP saved Palm from death by purchasing the phone maker, webOS and its patents for $1.2 billion. Today, the company has admitted failure, and will kill off its tablet and smartphone division. Additionally, the company is set to spinoff its PC division in order to move deeper into the higher margin services and software market. Best Buy and other resellers of the HP TouchPad are now possibly returning hundreds of thousands of unsold units, leading HP to take a $100 million write-off. We reported yesterday that Best Buy sold just 25,000 TouchPads in the last 6 weeks, leaving 240,000 in inventory. It is unclear whether retailers are all returning the units, or taking a subsidy so they can discount the tablet and sell at "firesale" prices.

http://www.afterdawn.com/news/article.cfm/2011/08/19/hp_admits_failure_will_kill_off_tablets_smartphones 

on Aug 19, 2011

The question could be asked: "Why did IBM exit the PC business?"  The answer is more or less the same as for HP. PCs are a low innovation, low margin business right now. IBM spun off Lenovo (now a Chinese company) in the same way that HP will spin off its PC business. Tablets are in a similar space, LOW margin, though higher innovation. Either way, this business is very different than enterprise servers, services, etc. HP, culture-wise, has never really been a consumer oriented company. This is all about returning (to some degree) to core competencies and an effort to boost profit margins.

on Aug 19, 2011

I agree with xinh2.  HP enterprise stuff is top rate.  Its consumer stuff is distressingly bad.  Hard to comprehend how the two could be from the same company.

on Aug 19, 2011

Trying to work out whether or not I care......

Nup.......don't.

on Aug 19, 2011

I had an HP computer for 6 1/2 years.  Still works, but it's incredibly S-L-O-W...  It's only used for backups now.  My current computer is *drumroll*, an HP as well.  My future computer will be *drumroll*, something that is NOT HP.

on Aug 20, 2011

Trying to work out whether or not I care......

Nup.......don't.

Ditto!   In fact, HP could disappear in a puff of smoke, for all I care.

on Aug 24, 2011

Daiwa
I agree with xinh2.  HP enterprise stuff is top rate.  Its consumer stuff is distressingly bad.  Hard to comprehend how the two could be from the same company.

They kept HP at the enterprise side, but moved the comcrap in on the consumer side.

on Aug 24, 2011

Well, the HP Touchpads are going faster than iPads (or seems that way) since there a rumors of Android being prepped for a port to them...