Ramblings of an old Doc

Sam Biddle at Gizmodo reports (and confirmed by the Arizona Police) that lulzSec has hacked Arizona Law Enforcement because of Arizona's "racial profiling anti-immigrant police state that is Arizona".

The newest data reveal "hundreds of private intelligence bulletins, training manuals, personal email correspondence, names, phone numbers, addresses and passwords belonging to Arizona law enforcement."

“The release, entitled "Chinga La Migra" (F**k the Border Patrol) is the first time LulzSec's purported to release personal information of government agents, rather than just disrupting their websites (see: CIA, US Senate). This is a powerful move. Home addresses are home addresses—about as personal as personal data gets. LulzSec's also clearly placed a political motive behind this thrust, as opposed to the HACK HACK LMAO ethos we've seen before.” – Gizmodo

lulzSec states:

“Every week we plan on releasing more classified documents and embarassing {can’t even spell!}  personal details of military and law enforcement in an effort not just to reveal
their racist and corrupt nature but to purposefully sabotage their efforts to terrorize communities fighting an unjust "war on drugs".”

 

I don’t like illegal border crossings. I also don’t like the fact that police who have to interact with various communities in (hopefully) constructive and non-confrontational ways having the impossible onus of illegal alien hunting put on them. The Police don’t like it either. It’s dangerous, and it’s antithetical to integrating LEGAL immigrants and their families into the community.

What I dislike the most is the tactic of releasing classified training and tactical information. This endangers the people who stand between us and criminals of all stripe.  That is unjustified.

Worse: Revealing their home addresses puts their families in danger from every sort of criminal, socio- and psychopath.

No amount of rationalization justifies this. Period.

Ultimately, what lulzSec did here is illegal and immoral.

Should any harm come to the people who defend us and/or their families and property, I hope they are identified, captured and punished to the fullest extent of the law.


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on Jun 24, 2011

You don't even want to read what I would like to say on this, but I have morals, unlike these hackers.

 

Once again, I hope they are caught and lobotomized!

on Jun 24, 2011

LulzSec have never pretended to be moral, and they're certainly not "gamers" (you might as well call them "christian hackers" if they happen to be christian). Their mission is to cause as much chaos and mayhem as possible, "for the lulz". Sometimes, their targets are chosen on a political agenda, such as the Arizona police and PBS. There is evidence that they have attempted to black-mail low-profile websites.

IF there is a problem with the police in an area, doing what they've done is not to the way to change things.

on Jun 24, 2011

Unfortunately, the likely result of 'hacks' like this one will likely also be to further erode some of the traditional (constitutional) rights of law abiding citizens as authorities strive to protect themselves.  These hackers aren't helping their cause, they are taking hostage (metaphor) the families of police, and they push government to seek more tools to deal with them.  A free society suffers the consequences. 

 

 

on Jun 24, 2011

What the hell would they do if the shoe were on the other foot. What's stopping Uncle Sam from doing the same damn thing to them. Nothing! They should consider that their actions just might put their own families in harms way.  Uncle Sam is nobody to play with. Piss him off enough and he'll make you disappear. Wouldn't be the first time.

on Jun 24, 2011

Heavenfall
and they're certainly not "gamers"

They hacked game sites because they were unhappy with SEGA and Sony. Hence "Gamers". NOT to be confused with law abiding gamers.

on Jun 24, 2011

ElanaAhova
Unfortunately, the likely result of 'hacks' like this one will likely also be to further erode some of the traditional (constitutional) rights of law abiding citizens as authorities strive to protect themselves.

"...and us."

Correct. Like the "Patriot Act". Never would have happened if it weren't for 9/11.

on Jun 24, 2011

LightStar
Once again, I hope they are caught and lobotomized!

Seconded. Being a resident of AZ the last thing I want to see is the fine men and women of this state being attacked like this. Are some of the rules and regulations here controversial? Yes, but find me a place that doesn't have something controversial. Further the police have to follow the rules, not make them. So why target them and their families?

I will admit I first laughed with these guys when they attacked Sony and SEGA. This is too far.

on Jun 24, 2011

Cyber bullying.

All permutations of it should be classified as terrorism and treated as such.

Pretty sure that public executions would see its popularity as a pastime for the socially inept .....er....dwindle.

on Jun 24, 2011

ElanaAhova
These hackers aren't helping their cause, they are taking hostage (metaphor) the families of police, and they push government to seek more tools to deal with them. A free society suffers the consequences.

Slight disagreement - they do not have a cause.  They find vulnerable servers, hack them, and then make up an excuse as to why.  Their range of targets is a dead give away as to their motives.  IN short, they are just juvenile delinquents using the Internet for a joy ride.

on Jun 24, 2011

Dr Guy
IN short, they are just juvenile delinquents using the Internet for a joy ride.

Yep....

Nostril slitting should be an Olympic sport ....

on Jun 24, 2011

What I dislike the most is the tactic of releasing classified training and tactical information. This endangers the people who stand between us and criminals of all stripe. That is unjustified.

Seriously? I'd rather like to know what sort of tactics the police are being encouraged to use, especially in the wake of these recent inflammatory laws. How they were obtained was regrettable, but unlike the home address this could at least have a non-destructive use.

on Jun 24, 2011

Cyber bullying.

All permutations of it should be classified as terrorism and treated as such.

Pretty sure that public executions would see its popularity as a pastime for the socially inept .....er....dwindle.

I vote "Yes. And why shouldn't flogging be 'public' as well? "Starship Troopers" (Heinlein) had it right.

Dr Guy
IN short, they are just juvenile delinquents using the Internet for a joy ride.

For "fun and profit". Right on, Dr Guy.

Nostril slitting should be an Olympic sport ....

Or flogging. Agreed.

GoaFan77

What I dislike the most is the tactic of releasing classified training and tactical information. This endangers the people who stand between us and criminals of all stripe. That is unjustified.
Seriously? I'd rather like to know what sort of tactics the police are being encouraged to use, especially in the wake of these recent inflammatory laws. How they were obtained was regrettable, but unlike the home address this could at least have a non-destructive use.

"Seriously?" - yes. Quite.

You wish to learn the tactics? No problem: Put down the game console and volunteer to go to a recognized Police Academy. Qualify. Then, after say, a year on a beat see if you still espouse the opinion that you now consider lulSec's  "how" as "regrettable" or maybe you'd find you wish to bust their arses and put them in jail.

"inflammatory laws"? Yeah. Try "just obey the existing immigration laws" and if not, the violator and offspring "anchors" are catapulted back across the border.

"Non destructive use"? You have no use for them at all, until you LEGALLY qualify to see them.

on Jun 24, 2011

DrJBHL
You wish to learn the tactics? No problem: Put down the game console and volunteer to go to a recognized Police Academy. Qualify. Then, after say, a year on a beat see if you still espouse the opinion that you now consider lulSec's "how" as "regrettable" or maybe you'd find you wish to bust their arses and put them in jail.

Why should the regular citizens of the country be ignorant of the techniques of their government? The police can be just as prone to error and shady tactics just as much as anyone else. Law Enforcement was ordered to give the Miranda warnings for a reason, all too often they'd try to trick an innocent person to confess to a crime they didn't commit. They are after all human beings like the rest of us, quite capable of being "racist and corrupt". Unlike most us though they actually wield power, and thus should be transparent in how they use it.

on Jun 24, 2011

GoaFan77

Quoting DrJBHL, reply 12You wish to learn the tactics? No problem: Put down the game console and volunteer to go to a recognized Police Academy. Qualify. Then, after say, a year on a beat see if you still espouse the opinion that you now consider lulSec's "how" as "regrettable" or maybe you'd find you wish to bust their arses and put them in jail.
Why should the regular citizens of the country be ignorant of the techniques of their government? The police can be just as prone to error and shady tactics just as much as anyone else. Law Enforcement was ordered to give the Miranda warnings for a reason, all too often they'd try to trick an innocent person to confess to a crime they didn't commit. They are after all human beings like the rest of us, quite capable of being "racist and corrupt". Unlike most us though they actually wield power, and thus should be transparent in how they use it.

Then use the legal route called The Freedom of Information Act. You seem to think you're entitled to see everything. Let me disabuse you. You are not.

If you feel your "rights" are being violated, take it to a lawyer, court and/or newspaper (or media equivalent).

Blackhats should have their butts busted. End of story.

on Jun 24, 2011

Sorry, but the actions of this hacking person or group are inexcusable. They should be caught, tried, and if convicted... well you don't want to know what I would say. Yes, all human beings are prone to racism and corruption, etc., but that still does not excuse this person/groups actions.

Illegal is illegal, period!  Be it illegal immigrants or hackers. If anyone supports the actions of these hackers in any way, then they are just as bad as they are.

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