Ramblings of an old Doc

 

AV comparatives tested a slew of antivirals and has published it’s results. They do this testing every three months.

This isn’t supposed to be a “mine’s better than yours” post. It is meant to help you decide which software you might wish to obtain to protect your computer/s. Bear in mind the limitations of the testing (see my last paragraph).

The software tested:

 

“Seven products attained the ADVANCED+ rating: Avira, BitDefender, eScan, F-Secure, Kaspersky, McAfee, and TrustPort. Kaspersky, Trustport, and McAfee all moved up, having rated ADVANCED in last August's on-demand test.

Avast!, ESET, G Data, and Panda would have received the same top rating, but false positives knocked them down to ADVANCED. Microsoft, Norton, and Sophos also rated ADVANCED. That's a step down for Symantec, which rated ADVANCED+ in the last test.

AVG and PC Tools passed the test, receiving a STANDARD rating; both scored better in the last test. Qihoo, which also rated STANDARD, doesn't have many users in this country, so PCMag hasn't reviewed it.

Three products failed to reach STANDARD: K7, Trend Micro, and Webroot. K7 simply scored low for detection; it achieved a STANDARD rating last time. Webroot, tested for the first time, also scored low, and suffered false positives to boot. [After initial release of these findings, AV-Comparatives raised Trend Micro's rating to STANDARD.]

AV-Comparatives also timed how fast each product scanned files. The fastest scanners, in descending speed order, were avast!, Panda, K7, and Webroot. Microsoft and PC Tools were the slowest of this bunch.” – Neil J. Rubenking, PC Magazine http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2383615,00.asp

One thing is clear to me. AV Comparatives tests on XP SP3 Core 2 Duo E8300/Intel 2.3 GHz Processors, 2Gb RAM machines (keep in mind when looking at scan speeds), and these were run on known batteries of trojans/virus/back doors, etc. not on the web.

Also important to note is they did not test “behavior aware” software. To me that is a large minus in their testing.

FYI.

I recommend you review the results for yourselves, straight from the horse’s mouth:

Source: http://www.av-comparatives.org/images/stories/test/ondret/avc_od_feb2011.pdf


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on Apr 18, 2011

Looks like I will be evaluating Avast now!  Thanks for the link.  great topic!

on Apr 18, 2011

Since it's not immediately obvious which scoring is better,

InTheLink: Standard < Advanced < Advanced+

Weird measuring range... sort of "three products rated blue, one rated grey and one rated neon".

 

on Apr 18, 2011

I fix PCs as a side job--including debugging, removing malware and recovering lost data and one thing I like about Avast free is that--its free--but it also updates FREQUENTLY.  Not just updates of the virus/etc. definitions but updates of the program itself.

This is a big plus because whenever AV software become ubiquitous or makes a list or review regularly like this, that AV usually gets targeted by the hard core (organized for money) hackers.

I won't name particular products but it is quite common to see systems with a free AV (or even a paid one) where the program is in place and appears to be functioning but has actually been co-opted by malware  and will no longer alert to it or particular malware programs.

One of the best ways to guard against this is to get an AV program that updates the actual program and not just the malware definitions.

No single AV package is sufficient alone to cover against everything (nothing can) sop it is good to have programs with different strengths that can run together.  At the moment, MAlware Bytes is a prretty good partner program with most Av software an does a decent job.

A couple of good programs on this list also have some compatibility install/uninstall issues on occasion and particularly with an older machine.

FYI--everyone thinks the AV software they run is 'the best" but these opinions are usually derived from their perceived experience with it and not necessarily how well it actually works in the real world.  What is best today, is second best tomorrow--that's how it goes.

 Safe place to download AV is always the home site of the company or a safe resource such as snapfiles.com, download.com, cnet, etc.

A tip: Avast has a silent gaming mode and the sound files can be hand edited as well if the voice prompt update bugs you.  I have it on a machine and mine is modded for Star Wars./  nothing like Darth Vader and Yoda warning you of danger or completed updates

on Apr 18, 2011

I've run BitDefender more recently, but cycle through depending on the cost efficiency at the time.  Its almost at the point now, though, where it is easier to pull off problems as they happen as opposed to dealing with an anti-virus program all the time.  Part of this feeling is from using Norton at work, though, and putting up with its constant nagging, virus-like tendencies.  

on Apr 18, 2011

edited cause i commented when i was half asleep

 

on Apr 18, 2011

double post

on Apr 18, 2011

^ That means Fistalis is now fully asleep...

on Apr 18, 2011

I still think McAfee and Norton are too bloated for an AV program.

on Apr 18, 2011

Picking the A/V software that you run really comes down to whether it does one thing and one thing only, will it protect your computer from............you.

I like to take the approach that all testing and evaluating of software, in this case A/V software is nice, and should if done properly give you a baseline.  Now, how does it work on your computer in a non-test environment.   You now the environment I'm talking about, the one where your brain is just a little too slow in sending the signal to your hands that says 'Dummy, don't click that button!'. 

Yes I understand that you can practice safe surfing on the net and still pick up crap, it happens.  Most of the times it comes from your friends that don't practice safe suring and good security practices.  No piece of software is out there to help with that. 

on Apr 18, 2011

     When you get right down to it there is only one piece of software you need. Its called a brain built on a foundation called common sense. All the rest is icing on the cake. Knock wood I have never had any kind of virus, ad-ware mal-ware, trojan or what have you on either of my machines. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

*now watch me get hammered lol*

on Apr 18, 2011

Common sense? I know that! For things you know nothing about, it works about as good as the ol' "some bloke tole me down the pub" and "it stands to reason".

on Apr 18, 2011

Actually, it's more complex than "Don't install that." and "Don't visit that site." Those are correct, but you can get emails which look completely genuine and might even be from a trusted friend, or a totally benign appearing ad.

You need protection, and that's a simple fact. This is a quaterly result. The results fluctuate for a variety of reasons, not all of which I mentioned.

 

 

on Apr 18, 2011

When you get right down to it there is only one piece of software you need. Its called a brain built on a foundation called common sense. All the rest is icing on the cake. Knock wood I have never had any kind of virus, ad-ware mal-ware, trojan or what have you on either of my machines.

Well technically Windows itself calls home so it could be classified as Spyware. (LOL)

on Apr 18, 2011

kona0197
Well technically Windows itself calls home so it could be classified as Spyware. (LOL)

The question is not if a program calls home, but that kind of information about you does it send?

As a note of interest there are a suprising number of smart phone apps that listen to you through the built-in microphone. and send info about what they hear to a central database.

on Apr 18, 2011

DrJBHL
Those are correct, but you can get emails which look completely genuine and might even be from a trusted friend, or a totally benign appearing ad.

Or even one from a trusted vendor (Epsilon hack).  I have gotten one already.

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