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WASHINGTON | Wed Feb 16, 2011 5:29pm EST (Reuters)

Senate Republican leader Mitch McConnell, Senator Kay Bailey Hutchison, Representative Fred Upton, Chairman of the House Energy and Commerce Committee, and Representative Greg Walden sponsored the resolution to repeal the rules follows a lawsuit filed in January by Verizon Communications that argues the FCC overstepped its authority.

This effort is probably doomed to failure because it would need to pass both chambers of Congress, where Democrats retain a majority in the Senate, and get President Barack Obama's signature, to have effect. At best it’ll turn into a bargaining chip in some other political fight. That really bothers me. Not only is it a waste of time needed for much more important work (like getting jobs!) but it puts me and the American public in the path of rate hikes for internet service. The Canadian Gov’t recently put the kabosh on a similar plan to raise rates there.

So what’s it about?

In December, the FCC voted 3-2 to ban Internet service providers like Comcast Corp and Verizon from blocking traffic but gave them some discretion to ration access and manage their networks. The FCC's two Republicans voted against the item.

Basically, this is Net Neutrality Redux ( link to prior article ).

Make no mistake, there’s a lot of money at stake here. This prima facie explains why politicians are up for the fight.

This split highlighted a huge divide between those who say the Internet will flourish without regulation and those who say the power of high-speed Internet providers to discriminate against competitors needs to be restrained.

I seem to remember this situation from somewhere: Oh yes! Wall St. and Banking deregulation.

Certainly worked to Main St.’s advantage there! We’re all a lot better of, aren’t we?

"I am concerned that this power grab will set a dangerous precedent to undermine the role of Congress as elected representatives of the people to determine the law of the land. I do not intend to allow this to occur," said Upton in a statement on the resolution and Joe Barton expressed a similar sentiment. I really wonder if their motives are so pure when it comes to that. After all, where control and power go, so go campaign contributions (remember? He’s the Chairman of the Energy and Commerce Committee of the House).

For anyone thinking, "Oh, he's a Liberal" (not a dirty word, incidently) I reply, "No, don't label me: I think all parties are compromised by our election funding laws. I don't like the Democrats OR the Republicans."

“John Shimkus, another Republican, pressed commissioners at the House communications subcommittee hearing on whether the FCC had done a cost-benefit analysis.”

To whom, Mr. Shimkus: The ISP’s and their executives, stockholders and the politicians receiving campaign contributions or the small businesses and public?

Verizon filed its complaint with the U.S. Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia.

The same court ruled last year that the FCC lacked the authority to stop Comcast from blocking bandwidth-hogging applications on its broadband network, spurring the agency's most recent rulemaking effort.

"We think we're going to win because we think that the theory we've laid out is very consistent with Supreme Court rulings in the area”, said FCC Chairman Julius Genachowski.


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on Feb 18, 2011

I was simply commenting on the legal structure in my own country--not saying I believe you can "own" a magnetic wave in reality.  All "ownership" in this world is only substantive if it is recognized by others.  You can claim to own anything you want but claiming it and actually being able to own it ain't necessarily the same thing.

The companies buying infrastructure are aiming for the right to control internet protocols because...they "own" the infrastructure...that was my whole point.

True natural law as a moral principle would be "survival of the fittest" and then the companies would be quite just in excerising their ability to gain control through leveraging their wealth.  On the other hand, in a true "natural law" morality, I'd be quite justified in jamming their signals in my neighborhood and cutting their power lines running over my property.

Good quote is that "All governments are evil...democracy is just the least evil".  Better than rule by mob or sword and anarchy.  I'd say your philosophy has a lot in common with your typical Muslim extremist philosophy..."I am by nature proven right and since I can't get from you what I want, I will exercise my own justice till I receive it from you.".

You pursue absolute fairness on your own terms all you want--I am just concerned with practical reality.  Everyone wants to champion the way they would do things but every one of those ways means restricting how someone else out there would like to do things.  Life is always a compromise of ideas or violence without compromise.  Peace.

on Feb 18, 2011

It has been said that democracy is the worst form of government except all the others that have been tried.

                                                                             Sir Winston Churchill

One of my favorites

Couple other great quotes by great men

"When governments fear the people there is liberty. When the people fear the government there is tyranny." - Thomas Jefferson 

"The strength of the Constitution lies entirely in the determination of each citizen to defend it. Only if every single citizen feels duty bound to do his share in this defense are constitutional rights secure." - Albert Einstein 

"[There is] a duty in refusing to cooperate in any undertaking that violates the Constitutional rights of the individual. This holds in particular for all inquisitions that are concerned with the private life and the political affiliations of the citizens." - Albert Einstein 


on Feb 18, 2011

Churchill rules!

If we remove governments from the equation of people and corporations we have corporations controlling all goods and people without means forced to violence to recover them.

Hate government all you want but when we all live in a Mad Max world, most people will be willing to give an arm for one....unless you're one of those bike riding, spiky-do-ed punks with a crossbow and boy lover prowling for gas and victims.

on Feb 18, 2011

Don't forget, folks that these 'Constitutional rights' everyone is quoting pertain to 280 million people.  The population of the planet is over 6 billion.

Like it or not, and no matter how much its population deceives itself, the world does NOT revolve around the USA....

on Feb 18, 2011

'Churchill rules'

I suppose it's where you live in the world ... was a complete arse to us down here 

on Feb 18, 2011


Don't forget, folks that these 'Constitutional rights' everyone is quoting pertain to 280 million people.  The population of the planet is over 6 billion.

Like it or not, and no matter how much its population deceives itself, the world does NOT revolve around the USA....

 

Ya but the US military is around the globe spreading the good word 

Bahrain
British Indian Ocean Territory
Brazil
Cuba
Spain
Japan
Guam
Italy
Israel
Greece
South Korea

Thats just Navy lol.

Even if a country does not want your rights and freedoms, americans give it to them anyway, the hard way.

You have the right to buy coke, you have the right to wear levis hahahaha

on Feb 18, 2011

myfist0 ....care to list where Australia's SAS are at the moment?

Oh, that's right....you only hear about them when they're awarded a VC, etc.

And that's just the SAS lol to you, too....

If we're talking noble acts of foreign involvement in global conflict need I remind you of the 1917-18 and '41-45 wars?

For the rest of the world they seemed longer...somehow....

on Feb 18, 2011

I have read quite a bit on those 2 wars and there was not a damn noble thing about either, but that's another subject.

No clue what Aus SAS is. Is that like the Canadian row boat we have in the indian ocean? 

I also got a gold star for pushing my chair in correctly in school. 

on Feb 18, 2011

Please note I qualified most of my own comments as pertaining to the U.S. and the law here--it isn't a universal (and I'm not deceived).

Yeah, from what I have read, Churchill was a bit of that southbound donkey thing but he was the right man at the right time during WWII.

All this said, being human is universal and the desire for freedom and equality is too...as well as the propensity of some to reject those things for others.  I don't like the propensity towards U.S. narcissism any more than I like the tendency of many towards European smug superiority.

On the subject of WWII...it is romanticized and idealized by many and much of it was simply "war"...but there were many noble things that occurred within it despite all the things not so noble.  What woulod have been worse than participating in WWII would have been to have sat on the side lines and judgmentally clicked one's tongue at those involved.  Talk is cheap.

on Feb 18, 2011

Like it or not, and no matter how much its population deceives itself, the world does NOT revolve around the USA....

 

The topic does.

 

If we remove governments from the equation of people and corporations we have corporations controlling all goods and people without means forced to violence to recover them.

 

To the contrary, governments are typically the facilitators of corporate control over the populace.  Entities like the East India Trading Company are why the US was set up with a minimalist approach to regulatory influence.  The list of business entities abusing populations for profit is a long one, but it is also almost entirely made up of pseudo government entities empowered in part or in whole by the governments they are partnered with.

 

It is through the assumption that the government has a right to manage a system, that politically adept individuals gain control by proxy through their wonderfully pliable representatives.  Corporations are wonderfully fragile systems that collapse under the slightest of strain.  It's only through political safety nets that a long standing monopoly can exist without violating criminal law while abusing their customers.

on Feb 18, 2011

I actually don't disagree with you about they corruption in and the manipulation of gov't that occurs Psy--but when no government is involved people still pursue their own selfish agendas--or they live in the country alone on a hill.

 

Some things can be worked out in a neighborly fashion but some things affect the whole neighborhood and not everyone in it cares about the other neighbors.  It's government or a lynch mob then...or a theocracy that stones those who don't submit.  The survivors of the HMS Bounty lived pretty idyllic lives--after most of them killed one another.

on Feb 18, 2011

"No clue what Aus SAS is"

Ah, to be so parochial....

Aus...abreviation for Australia....you may have heard of it....little place about 10,000 miles away.

SAS ... Special Air Service .... think USM except more talent less grunt...

on Feb 18, 2011

More like Army Rangers or Navy Seals.  The USMC is not special forces.

 

I actually don't disagree with you about they corruption in and the manipulation of gov't that occurs Psy--but when no government is involved people still pursue their own selfish agendas--or they live in the country alone on a hill.

 

Some things can be worked out in a neighborly fashion but some things affect the whole neighborhood and not everyone in it cares about the other neighbors.  It's government or a lynch mob then...or a theocracy that stones those who don't submit.  The survivors of the HMS Bounty lived pretty idyllic lives--after most of them killed one another.

 

Blackmail, arson, theft, murder, kidnapping, bribery of a public official.  They're all illegal regardless of whether it's a corporation or an individual doing it.  You don't need to have your fingers in the pot to send people to prison for misbehaving.  If you have your fingers in the pot, they tend to get sticky.

on Feb 18, 2011

"Send people to prison"...and who exactly is doing the sending and who is paying for the prison...not to mention, who is making the laws for those things that merit prison and what if someone doesn't agree with them?

on Feb 19, 2011

Now you're trying to tie a lack of industry specific regulation to a lack of criminal law.  Just because a government exists, does not mean it has to control every aspect of society.

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