Ramblings of an old Doc

 

W10 was a “Free for the first year” upgrade, which back then made me ask, “Are they going over to an Adobe model?"...i.e., "free trial, then pay per month" to continue using your computer? I believe I referred to it at the time as the 'dope pusher model'. Well, the end of the "First year free" is coming up, and I for one want to know what's in the "Anniversary Update".

That isn’t true…yet. Except this: W10 Enterprise $84/yr.

I am concerned that MS will go to a per device subscription…not sure what will happen with that “Free for the first year”. There are a couple of ways to read that, and MS has never really explained it.

“Instead, what seems most likely, is that Microsoft would offer a per-device subscription instead.

Consumers can purchase Windows 10 Home for $119 and Windows 10 Pro for $199 currently, and a subscription package would have to be priced reasonably or offer additional features or services.” – gHacks

What are your thoughts? Is Windows worth it anymore? I mean, will you stay with Windows? Linux? MacOS?

Source:

http://www.ghacks.net/2016/07/13/subscription-windows/?_m=3n%2e0038%2e1887%2ehj0ao01hy5%2e1yqb


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on Jul 16, 2016

Personally, I will stay with Windows. 

on Jul 16, 2016

So what happens if you choose not to subscribe ? Your PC  stops loading Windows ??

on Jul 16, 2016

That's the question, Andy. 

If you're lucky you'll be able to roll back to W7. If not, "Welcome to Linux" or MacOS, because W7 will not be supported after 2020, if I remember correctly.

 

on Jul 16, 2016

Well, if I didn't want 10 for free why would I fork out ducats to purchase it later?

I'll stick with Win7 for as long as possible and cross that other bridge when I have to.

on Jul 16, 2016

I would stay with Windows, but the version would depend on the ongoing costs. 

I would certainly NOT pay $84 a year to run Win10 on any of my PCs, so if they go with that model, I would revert the ones I could, and see about Win8x for the others. 

I'd rather pay a $100 one-time fee for Win8.1 from Newegg, than "rent" an OS for a monthly rate from MS.

on Jul 16, 2016

Just watch out for the involuntary "Voluntary" upgrades.

 

on Jul 16, 2016

I really don't think Microsoft could force people who upgraded to Windows 10 for free to pay a fee to continue to use it. That would seem highly irresponsible, if not totally illegal to me. 

on Jul 16, 2016

Oh LightStar, no one give crap away for free, there is always a catch.  That's the catch, all W10 users will eventually pay.  Its called Greed.

on Jul 16, 2016

I rolled back to Windows 7 after trying Win 10. I was having some strong issues with Microsoft over a  product key and Windows CD that I bought legitimately online from a reputable company. I felt like I was being extorted by Microsoft. What is being described in this thread sounds like extortion to me. I'll stick with my Windows 7. It works great and I don't miss Win 10 one little bit. If enough people do this, I think Microsoft would have to rethink their approach if they want Win 10 to be anywhere near successful.     -- Ace --

on Jul 16, 2016

It rubs the Win10 on its skin or else it gets the hose again...

on Jul 16, 2016


W10 was a “Free for the first year” upgrade, which back then made me ask, “Are they going over to an Adobe model?"...i.e., "free trial, then pay per month" to continue using your computer?

As of today:

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/windows

bottom of page:

* Windows Offer Details

Yes, free! This upgrade offer is for a full version of Windows 10, not a trial.

______________________________________________

 

I expect no surprises on existing installations,  Who knows what pricing models MS or anyone else may choose to use in the future.

on Jul 16, 2016

The Microsoft business model is to sell Windows pre-installed on new computers. That's how they charge consumers for Windows.

I have a hard time seeing that regular consumers would pay a subscription fee for something that comes pre-installed and is necessary for operation. What if you buy a computer for someone else: Should you hand that person a payment plan?

No pre-installed OS comes with a subscription. Apple, Google and Microsoft all charge for software by tying it to hardware.

If Apple and Google can't do it, I don't think Microsoft can do it either. Think about this: Not even Apple can force their users to pay a subscription for software. Instead they make hardware "obsolete" by deteriorating software performance.

Windows is competing with Android/ChromeOS, MacOS/iOS and to a lesser extent Linux. Windows can not become "the OS that you have to pay for". It's bad marketing. Microsoft realizes this and bets on data-collection/ads instead.

For consumers I don't think Windows subscription will happen unless Apple and Google also move to subscription software.

There is a big difference between OS (necessary software) subscription and other optional software subscriptions (MS Office, Adobe Creative Cloud, Stardock Object Desktop etc.)

on Jul 16, 2016

DaveRI

Yes, free! This upgrade offer is for a full version of Windows 10, not a trial.

I didn't say it was a trial. I'm asking what happens at the end of the year? 

"Yes, free! This upgrade offer is for a full version of Windows 10, not a trial. 3GB download required; internet access fees may apply. To take advantage of this free offer, you must upgrade to Windows 10 within one year of availability. Once you upgrade, you have Windows 10 for free on that device."

Right...but what about updates...patches, etc. Will you get them, or, will you have to subscribe to get them?

I'm not saying you will or won't have to subscribe...just wondering.

If you do have to subscribe, then what will you do?

on Jul 16, 2016

My personal favorite on the net has always been "download for free!"...LOL Personally I could care less if/when they stop supporting W7...wouldn't matter to me one bit...it will still work as well as it does right now. I still have a pc with XP on it as well, and when those die...well I'll probably check out with them.

MS will most definitely find a way to make you pay...that's what it's always been about...and they are really good at sucking you all in and making you pay...because you know you just gotta have it.

on Jul 16, 2016

DrJBHL

just wondering.
If you do have to subscribe, then what will you do?
Me n Kits would definitely roll back if forced...

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