Ramblings of an old Doc

 

Tim Cook, is saying “No!”, in thunder to the DoJ.

But…”What if there’s info in there that would help catch terrorists?” That “What if” that makes us decide for ourselves the answer to Ben Franklin’s statement. Tim Cook said “No.” to the Justice Department’s Order to assist the FBI extract data from the San Bernadino terrorist’s phone. Wanna know something? He was right to do so.

Why? Well, for one thing, does it occur to anyone that the FBI has the terrorist’s fingerprint? So, why can’t they unlock the phone? Does it occur to anyone the government has super Cray computers which could have unlocked that phone? Why do they want the backdoor which they’ve wanted for a year at least? Why are they saying this is a “once only” when it clearly is not?

The FBI says it would be a “one time”, and that your device’s security wouldn’t be compromised. Security experts disagree: THEY say it will. Guess who I believe? Why should anyone believe that “one time” nonsense? The NSA collected your data illegally for years. Now? Congress has made it legal. Trust them to take your rights without a fight.

From the moment the FBI was created, J. Edgar Hoover collected dirt on everyone and used it to blackmail Presidents and Congresses and Courts. You think anything has changed? They’ve only gotten better at it, and justifying it because they know they’re dealing with sheep (sorry, Jim). The government has violated your rights with impunity, and poo-poo it, and they’ve done it for years…and will continue to do so.

So, if they can unlock the phone (does anyone really believe they can’t?), why ask a Court for an order? Because they want it “legally” (who doesn’t love a farce?), and more than ANYTHING, they want a PRECEDENT. That is what they MUST NOT obtain. The Bill of Rights stands as an integrated whole. The First, Second and Fifth Amendments most definitely depend upon the Fourth Amendment, and “What if” is Not sufficient reason to violate anyone’s privacy, just as “We want to know” isn’t, either.

The government knows it cannot justify the iPhone search with proof there actually is data there which is critical to the security of America. They are acting out of “What if?”. Well, that’s called a “fishing expedition”. It is inadequate reason for a Federal Judge to grant a search warrant. The Court Order was a serious breach of every citizen’s right to privacy and unreasonable search and seizure. Judges guard the Fourth Amendment jealously. They’d better, because the FBI would be looking at their phones with any imaginary “what if” they could dream up. Not just the FBI: Every local Police Dep’t. could “justify” such a search in a similar manner. Where is the boundary?

“We must, indeed, all hang together or, most assuredly, we shall all hang separately.” – B. Franklin. Well, The EFF and ACLU, Google, Twitter and Facebook are standing with Apple on this. Shaping up to be an epic fight. I hope “We the People” win. “Backdoors” weaken security. They do not strengthen it. If a backdoor exists, ANYONE can exploit it, and will. The CIA has been trying to break into iPhones for years without success. You can bet the FSB and others have, as well.

So, Tim Cook is vowing to fight the DoJ’s Magistrate’s Order all the way to the Supreme Court. So would I: At best? There’ll be a tie, and no way to resolve it. Fitting in a karmic way.

Source:

http://www.engadget.com/2016/02/18/fbi-apple-iphone-explainer/


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on Mar 07, 2016

Clearly, the ethical answer is to send it towards the five people working.  If they're not smart enough to get out of the way, your only hope is that they didn't reproduce before nature took it's natural course.

on Mar 07, 2016

Borg999


Quoting DrJBHL,





Don't generalize my position.

In this matter (the OP), Apple's position is entirely correct.




 

 

I wasn't generalizing your position. I was commenting on a post (by someone else), who framed this issue in terms of good and evil,  - making a blanket claim that gov't agencies are evil, and Apple by default good. Which is just not the case.


actually, if you read my entire post, you will discover my focus was on how we use language to >deliberately mislead others.<  The good vs evil was merely an illustration that using words to deceive others has been a 'time honored' practice - and often policy for some factions.  Nothing is totally good, or bad - <sarcasm> except, of course, people misunderstanding my posts </sarcasm>  

on Mar 07, 2016

psychoak

Clearly, the ethical answer is to send it towards the five people working.  If they're not smart enough to get out of the way, your only hope is that they didn't reproduce before nature took it's natural course.

Lol. Why am I not surprised your answer would be something like that?

Anyway, in the real problem the five people will not be able, for whatever reason, to hear the train coming on time. The choice is yours and yours alone, so take it from there. Again, there is no clear 'right' answer to this problem because something good and something bad will come out of whatever choice you make.

on Mar 07, 2016

I'm still seeing a pretty black and white answer there, an adult is responsible for their own irresponsible actions, and working on an active rail without the proper precautions is pretty brain dead.  The kid still has hope to grow one and stop playing on the tracks at some point.

 

Five people running from a werewolf and you can push a guy off a ledge to distract it and save them is a much better scenario.

on Mar 07, 2016
on Mar 07, 2016

JcRabbit

that famous trolley ethical problem that doesn't really have a 'right' answer

Ah...the old "Kobayashi Maru" trolley test, eh?

I saw what you did there.

The right answer lies in the right coding, as Capt. Kirk proved...you of all people should know that.

on Mar 07, 2016

ElanaAhova


actually, if you read my entire post, you will discover my focus was on how we use language to >deliberately mislead others.<  The good vs evil was merely an illustration that using words to deceive others has been a 'time honored' practice - and often policy for some factions.  Nothing is totally good, or bad - <sarcasm> except, of course, people misunderstanding my posts </sarcasm>  
 
A misunderstanding on the Internet? It can't happen.
on Mar 07, 2016

My personal favorite was the guy that decided to commit suicide and make certain it happened.  He tied a rope around his neck, drank some poison, and jumped off a cliff while shooting himself in the head.  He missed, shot the rope, splashed down in icy water, puked up the poison, and was rescued by a fisherman before he drowned, only to die of hypothermia on the way back.  The dude that shot a deer standing on a ledge above him wasn't bad either.

on Mar 11, 2016

What President Obama sidesteps by posing on "the side of the angels" is his NSA's (and every other alphabet soup agency's) endless overstepping their bounds and prying into legally protected areas.

Perhaps if his shoes weren't covered in mud, people might be more willing to allow him to cross over the threshold and onto their rugs.

on Mar 28, 2016

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/03/29/technology/apple-iphone-fbi-justice-department-case.html?_r=0

Well it looks like they don't need Apple's help after all.

Assuming this is true, Apple lost the opportunity to "control the narrative" in terms of unlocking the phone.

If they had helped, they could have kept the method "in house" and under their control. And it brings into question just how secure the phone really is.

"Yet law enforcement’s ability to now unlock an iPhone through an alternative method raises new uncertainties, including questions about the strength of security in Apple devices. The development also creates potential for new conflicts between the government and Apple about the method used to open the device and whether that technique will be disclosed. Lawyers for Apple have previously said the company would want to know the procedure used to crack open the smartphone, yet the government might classify the method."

on Mar 29, 2016

Of course they'll classify it. They won't want to lose that edge. They know Apple can override it and probably will to protect their phones and the customer base, providing they get access to the method used. Catch-22?

on Mar 29, 2016

Looks like the FBI turned to an Israeli firm to do it for them (and here I thought the NSA had code wizards)...and they apparently succeeded in unlocking/unblocking the phone and retrieving the data.

A bit (or byte? Maybe bite?) of humor:

http://www.themideastbeast.com/apple-dispute-resolved-as-san-bernardino-terrorists-password-turns-out-to-be-1-2-3-4/

 

on Mar 29, 2016

Borg999


Quoting ElanaAhova,





actually, if you read my entire post, you will discover my focus was on how we use language to >deliberately mislead others.<  The good vs evil was merely an illustration that using words to deceive others has been a 'time honored' practice - and often policy for some factions.  Nothing is totally good, or bad - <sarcasm> except, of course, people misunderstanding my posts </sarcasm>  

 

A misunderstanding on the Internet? It can't happen.


Never happens, never.  LOL  

on Mar 29, 2016

DrJBHL

Looks like the FBI turned to an Israeli firm to do it for them (and here I thought the NSA had code wizards)...and they apparently succeeded in unlocking/unblocking the phone and retrieving the data.

A bit (or byte? Maybe bite?) of humor:

http://www.themideastbeast.com/apple-dispute-resolved-as-san-bernardino-terrorists-password-turns-out-to-be-1-2-3-4/

 

 

Yep, we all know we should have different passwords for different things, more numbers etc in our passwords but, ah heck, can't be bothered thinking of a new code/password: 1-2-3-4. Done.

 

A man was was unable to log into his online banking account and he pulled up the online chat support.

"I put in my password and I cannot access my account"

"Sorry that password has expired- you must register a new one."

"Did anyone discover that password and hack my computer?"

"No, but your password has expired- you must get a new one."

"Why then do I need a new one as that one seems to be working pretty well?"

"Well, you must get a new one as they automatically expire every 90 days."

"Can I use the old one and just re-register it?"

"No, you must get a new one."

"I don't want a new one as that is one more thing for me to remember."

"Sorry, you must get a new one."

"OK, roses."

"Sorry you must use more letters."

"OK, pretty roses"

"No good, you must use at least one numerical character."

"OK, 1 pretty rose"

"Sorry, you cannot use blank spaces."

"OK, 1prettyrose"

"Sorry, you must use additional characters."

"OK, 1fuckingprettyrose"

"Sorry, you must use at least one capital letter."

"OK,1FUCKINGprettyrose"

"Sorry, you cannot use more than one capital letter in a row."

"OK, 1Fuckingprettyrose"

"Sorry, you cannot use that password as you must use additional letters."

"OK, 1Fuckingprettyroseshovedupyourassifyoudon'tgivemeaccessrightfuckingnow"

"Sorry, you cannot use that password as it is already being used"

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