S**t i can't understand this paypal anymore

So long as i don't get charged for the call or text it won't bother me ,unless it's at night when i'm sleeping.I haven't received anything yet ! stands to reason i spose as it'll be quite an expensive bill i would think to phone a cell phone in NZ,unless a skype call is free to cells

The point is, they're using your phone to peddle you with bs you never asked for...unless you continue with them.

They're selling the info you trusted them with to their 'affiliates' and their affiliates' affiliates. In short, to the world.

What do you get?

Nothing. Nothing but inconvenience and clutter with their bs...and affiliate's bs and affiliates' affiliates' bs ad nauseum and ad infinitum.

That's the point.

Sadly, that's the way of the corporate world... finding any which way to get in your face with advertising and peddle shit you'd rather not know about,  So glad I told PayPal to piss off years ago.  I meant that using E-bay to purchase items was difficult to impossible, but I've managed quite okay without it.  It also means I miss out on some of the best prices out there, but I've purchased several great bargains through other online sellers and I'm not about to change my mind to maybe save a few bucks here and there.... and given this latest advertising/privacy debacle [or should I say travesty] the less I have to do with it the better.

For mine, what they're doing is illegal and would infringe on privacy laws somewhere, it's just getting a government and/or a prosecutor to tackle it head on and make them pay for such brazen behaviour.

Next to bankers and politicians, advertising execs are the next worst parasite on the planet.

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Dear Kenneth Crooks,

Hello! My name is Mia, a PayPal Product and Site Support specialist. Thank you for writing us back. I'm here to address your inquiry about the amended user agreement.

We appreciate you contacting us about this for clarification. Please be advised that the amended User Agreement doesn't mean that you will be opted into receiving unwanted autodialed or prerecorded message calls from PayPal, with no opportunity to opt out. 

Please follow the simple steps below.

 
1. Log into their PayPal account
2. Click on the profile icon
3. Select "Notifications"
4. Under "News and Updates".

If for some reason you're unable to do it online, please respond to this email so that we can submit a request for you to be opted out from this. Just to give you a heads up, you will not be opted out immediately after the request was submitted. Please advise that while we will take steps to process the request quickly, the request will not be processed immediately. If in case you'll be adding new phone numbers to the account profile later, it's a must to contact us if you want those numbers opted out as well.

The reason why we use these technologies is for us reach out to you in a more efficient way than other methods may provide. Our goal is to enhance your experience with PayPal by providing you important information about your account. Before we use this approach, we seek your permission through our User Agreement.

This does not mean that you'll be receiving a lot of automated calls from PayPal if you have accepted the User Agreement. We value our relationship with you and have no intention of harassing you with excessive autodialed or prerecorded message calls.

We honor your requests not to be contacted through these channels, and this is the reason why I outlined the steps to opt out at any time. This will not result in your PayPal account being closed.

For further assistance, we can also be reached at 1-877-569-1116 during these hours:

4:00 am PT to 10:00 pm PT, Monday-Friday
6:00 am PT to 8:00 pm PT, Saturday-Sunday

We appreciate your time. Thank you for choosing PayPal!

Sincerely,

Mia
PayPal Consumer Support
PayPal, an eBay Company
Copyright © 2015 PayPal Inc. All rights reserved.

I don't give a flying fornication what PayPal says up front to allay pricacy concerns, I simply do not believe any of it.  While they say that customers can opt out of automated emails and texts from them, you can bet that your purchase preferences and other deetails are passed on to PayPal partners, as per 'behind closed doors' agreements between them.  Irreapective of my opt out agreement with Paypal when I was a customer, I still received advertising emails, read spam, from various companies I had no reason to expect business/advertisingc from....unless it was connected to Paypal.

On another note...

After blocking Facebook several times to avoid its spam and other crap, I've again started receiving emails to my hotmail account regarding so and so's Facebook status and profile changes, etc.  I want absolutely fech all to do with Facebook... period, and I've told them this via email, and have even changed my email address, yet this unwelcomed crap still finds its way into my email box.  So what do you do when the ***ts don't/won't fechen listen? 

Personally, if I could get my hands around the throat of that Zuckerberg twat, I'd strangle some fechen sense into him.  In short, Facebook needs to learn/respect when people just aren't interested and back the fech off.

I've gotten a lot of those claiming to be from Facebook and various other "places" that I've never signed up with.  I'm not sure if people are using bogus emails or if it's pfishing spam.  Anyway I spam-zap it unopened.

"Just to give you a heads up, you will not be opted out immediately after the request was submitted. Please advise that while we will take steps to process the request quickly, the request will not be processed immediately. If in case you'll be adding new phone numbers to the account profile later, it's a must to contact us if you want those numbers opted out as well.

The reason why we use these technologies is for us reach out to you in a more efficient way than other methods may provide. Our goal is to enhance your experience with PayPal by providing you important information about your account. Before we use this approach, we seek your permission through our User Agreement.

This does not mean that you'll be receiving a lot of automated calls from PayPal if you have accepted the User Agreement. We value our relationship with you and have no intention of harassing you with excessive autodialed or prerecorded message calls.

1. If ever.

2. That's just what Google said about its ad technology. Your 'experience' been 'enhanced' yet? Or, has Google made a zillion and your email been 'scanned'?

3. "not a lot" does not mean "no phone calls". It means some whole integer >0 which THEY define as "a lot".

Thanks, but no thanks (pseudonym) Mia (or the computer named Mia).

Thing is, I'm using a different email account to the one I initally signed up with, so I should not be getting anything from Facebook.... period.   I no longer use that email after several attemps to block Facebook failed and its crap continued to arrive.  I am at the same IP address, however, and using the same personal details [name, DOB] for Hotmail, so maybe that's how they found me, the persitent and unwelcome bastards.

And to think, I only ever went to Facebook just the once to sign up.... then thinking better of ever returning..... and I think this bullshit with Paypal is no different.  They say there is an opt out, but I believe it will be alot easier said than done.  I mean, why would the go to the trouble of changing the terms and conditions to let potential sales and customers off the hook that easily.  Nope, it's a fechen lie AFAIC.

Thanks for that info, JuniorCrooks. That sounds reasonable and relatively easy to do. If I start getting robocalls on my cell, I'll opt out.  

(I tried to give you +1 Karma, but I can't seem to on the Joe User Forums.  I'll try from a different forum and see if it works.)

Yep, it worked from the GalCiv3 forum. Not sure what's up with Joe User right now.

Not a problem and you are welcome. I am glad someone found it useful. I knew what I posted would be picked apart and some would take issue with it but that is fine, people can cancel their PayPal accounts if they want too. I guess that I am the daft one for taking the wait and see approach before assuming I will be flooded with calls. If I am flooded with calls after opting out I will take other measures at that time. I still say it is not going to happen but I have been wrong many times before, just ask the ex, she will tell you all about it.  

Its been years since I last used Paypal. They did something to piss me off. I suppose this is a good time to ask for my account to be closed. I haven't felt the need to do anything about it until I heard about this.

Question, would asking them to close my account be enough to solve all future problems with them or would I need to do something more?

In my experience, no, asking them to close your account would not solve anything.  I asked them to close a Paypal account I can no longer use because the email account I used to sign up with was closed by Microsoft due to it being hacked, and like 5 years later that account is still open and they won't let me open another using my name and personal details.... because - get this - I already have an account  It doesn't matter that the account is unusable because there isn't a viable email addy attached to it, the situation persists.

After numerous failed attempts to have it resolved, I lost patience and told'em to shove it where sunshine is never seen.