Ramblings of an old Doc

 

Well, the IRS missed the April 8th deadline with Windows XP (58,000 computers worth) and will be paying MS millions for an additional year of security patches. Deadlines only apply to some XP users, it seems. This especially rankles since the IRS demands we all tow the line with our 1040s and now health insurance as well. Guess who’s going to pay for those patches? Doubly painful since they won’t be available to the folks actually paying for them.

Turns out this will cost an additional $30 million (in addition to what has already been spent – no figure available) to finish the migration to Windows 7.

What they aren’t even relating to is that Windows 7 will lose support in 2020, and the upgrading will repeat: All this money for less than 6 years.

So what is the IRS worried about? The upgrade will take $30 million out of its enforcement budget.

Another interesting angle: MS raised its price for support from $200,000 per customer to $200 per computer. Cute. Well, sales of W8 haven’t exactly broken records and that has to be made up somehow, right?

So, let’s do the math: The IRS has 110,000 computers (just round numbers), and of them 52,000 are W7. That leaves 58,000 on XP. Let’s multiply that by 200. That will yield a payoff of $11,600,000 for Microsoft, for just one year of custom support. That would leave $18,400,000 to buy computers to replace the ones running XP, or $317 per computer. I don’t really see them getting pricing like that, so the price will rise. Guess who’ll pay for that?

Just to rub some salt in your wounds:

"None of our filing season systems or other major business operating systems for taxpayers use Windows XP," an IRS spokesperson said Friday. "The IRS emphasizes the situation involving Windows will have no impact on taxpayers, including people filing their tax returns in advance of the April 15 deadline."- Greg Keizer

So, it’s ok for the IRS not to make deadlines, just not us. That figures.

Source:

http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9247634/IRS_misses_XP_deadline_pays_Microsoft_millions_for_patches


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on Apr 12, 2014

And they were given 6 years warning like everyone else............scandalous!

on Apr 12, 2014

While I think the IRS are a bunch of criminals, and I am no fan of MS, this is supposed to be a 'free market' system, and MS is not obligated to release patches for XP to the public.

on Apr 12, 2014

myfist0

While I think the IRS are a bunch of criminals, and I am no fan of MS, this is supposed to be a 'free market' system, and MS is not obligated to release patches for XP to the public.

That's what the leaks are for.

 

on Apr 12, 2014

... doesn't really matter what software they use. they'll have to be upgraded at some point, incurring cost.

on Apr 12, 2014

Remember, the IRS is 'sovereign.'  Taxpayers are 'subjects.'  'nuff said. 

on Apr 12, 2014

alaknebs

... doesn't really matter what software they use. they'll have to be upgraded at some point, incurring cost.

If they did it in 2008, then the money would have been used for W7 on their computers for 6 years more, thus decreasing the cost per year and not necessitating $11.6 million for patches at all.

See? Si?

on Apr 12, 2014

The day to day crap that goes on without relenting one bit.  It is no wonder that the common folk or the person on the street could just care less and less with each passing day.  Are governments wasteful, you bet your life they are.  Will something ever happen to change this, not a chance.  Should we care more, of course we all should care more.  Will us caring cause a revolution, nah. 

Here's a thought, everyone stop paying federal income tax, that might get someone's attention and some of us free room and board. 

on Apr 12, 2014

They'll need more jails. Here's a thought......lets turn Manhattan into an island prison. Wouldn't have to make too many changes.

on Apr 12, 2014

Philly0381
and some of us free room and board. 

You might be less than thrilled with your roomie.

 

on Apr 12, 2014

Lot's of companies are still running XP, even the Veterans Administration on some PC's.

on Apr 12, 2014

Tom...from the support costs ($200 per machine per year), just guess how much MS is raking in.

on Apr 12, 2014

DrJBHL

Tom...from the support costs ($200 per machine per year), just guess how much MS is raking in.

Yup! Greed ... the American way! Hell, I give money away to help others when I can, you'd think Microsoft, who makes billions, could do the same for this country.

on Apr 12, 2014

Hell, I don't live in the US, but if my government was paying out 11 mil a year on patches for an obsolete OS, I'd be spitting chips and demanding better... much better over the next 6 years.  I mean, they're eventually going to HAVE to upgrade, so why not bite the bullet and do it now, before the costs blow out on making do with band-aid solutions.

DrJBHL
Tom...from the support costs ($200 per machine per year), just guess how much MS is raking in.

Not to mention that which the UK, Holland and other European countries are paying for extended XP supprt.... which all seems so stupid to me.

If an OS has been retired, then it IS RETIRED.... FOR EVERYONE!!!  No ifs, buts or maybes!  MS has to stand up and be counted, not lay down and get mounted.... and that means saying no to whoever wanting 'special considerations' beyond the company's plan going forward.

For mine, MS should tell the IRS to go stick their money where the sun don't shine.... same for EVERYBOBY else and retire XP permanently and irrevocably.

on Apr 13, 2014

And here's another point of view.  If MS can provide extended XP support the IRS and others, then it could probably extend that support across the broader community at little or no extra cost.  In other words, if XP users stay away in droves and refuse to uprgade to Win 7 or 8/8/1, given this IRS situation, what is MS going to do: extend XP support to the public or; withdraw XP support completely and force upgrades to the latter OSes?

Given the slow uptake to Win 8, you would imagine MS would prefer tha latter option, with increased Win 8 sales being the desired outcome.  However, that is unlikely if the buying public digs in its heels and refuses to upgrade while XP support is being afforded to some but not others.

Another question that begs here is this... what if the IRS doesn't want to upgrade to Win 7 because it thinks its employees are too thick to handle the change?   Hmmm, wouldn't that make US citizens wonder who the fech is handling their taxes?

on Apr 13, 2014

starkers
If MS can provide extended XP support the IRS and others, then it could probably extend that support across the broader community at little or no extra cost.

Ya that's what I've been thinking ever since I saw this post.  They've kind of painted themselves into a corner - One lawsuit will say unfair business practices for doing updates for a select few and not releasing them to the public or at least offering a public subscription.  On the other hand, if they backtrack and release them or offer a public subscription, the lawsuit will be about all the people and companies that trashed perfectly good machines only because of the o/s expiration date.

Either way we'll probably see at least one of those class action lawsuits that net the lawyers 40% of gross and the participants $1.95 each.  I'd guess that MS's best position would be to not do public releases and maintain the IRS support as "Contract Work".  As MyFist0 said, it is a free market system.

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