Ramblings of an old Doc

 

The Australian Parliament has finally gotten off its duff and is probing the price gouging there.

This is getting ridiculous. It’s actually cheaper for an Australian to fly to the US and buy CS6 here than to buy it in Oz! Well, Adobe’s going 100% digital and dropping box sets, so that might well not be happening any more, but the Australian legislature is demanding answers. Good for them, and high time. This has been going on for decades.

Companies often charge a premium of more than 70% in Oz as compared to the US pricing:

Microsoft: Office Professional USA: $399, AU: $599… failed to justify the price difference. So what did Pip Marlowe (MS’s Oz managing directrix) say? “customers will vote with their wallets”. They probably would, except tat the alternatives are also inflated. She might have equally said, “Let them eat cake.”

Adobe’s Oz managing director Paul Robson couldn’t justify the nearly 75% higher price for boxed editions of CS6 but pointed out the more equally priced cloud edition. That’s just absurd, since Adobe is eliminating physical editions in the future: Maybe the news takes longer to get to Oz, too.

Apple’s Australian boss Tony King came out best of the three. He stated that hardware differs in price only after conversions and taxes are figured in. The higher prices for digital content resulted from higher prices for Australia resulted from higher contract prices from the record labels and studios setting higher prices for Australia over similar content for the USA.

One has to wonder if these things are carry overs from before the digital age, when all content was physical. If so, it’s high time that delivery method should determine price. It costs next to nothing to deliver these goods digitally. After all, wasn’t that the main selling point of the internet and the digital age?

Whether that’s true or not, it’s high time Australians get treated equally with respect to digital delivery, and that physical delivery prices come into line and be justified by fact, and not by “What the market can bear.” That proposition requires an alternative priced differently.

Perhaps the best alternative is using Open Office or Libre Office, and returning the thumb in the eye.

Source:

http://www.neowin.net/news/microsoft-adobe-apple-poorly-justify-australian-price-gouging


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on Mar 28, 2013

Some FACTS about Australian copyright law...before it was pissed up against the wall of the US free trade agreement.... it was so restrictive with regards to the duplication of 'software' someone eventually gave concession to products-essential-to-a-business  could legally be copied for backup/replacement where not to do so would endanger the viability of the business.

That's how black and white it was....ZERO copying of any sort for any reason.

Meanwhile...in Asia....just over the pond....every man and his dog was mass-printing anything and everything.

It's not a 'small thing' when the ACCC takes up an issue.... be it the fuckers in the US hijacking the 'ugg boot' and DEMANDING history books and dictionaries be rewritten .... or how a consortium outside of AUS could legislate globally against our free access to products [Region coding]...

It's all a little too much like The Mouse That Roared.   So we declare war on the US....just one Monolithic Mega-corp at a time....

on Mar 28, 2013

DrJBHL


Quoting moshi, reply 27 if a pharma company asks so much for a drug that even the middle class can not afford it, they just override their patents and let local companies produce generics.

That is illegal. One cannot simply steal others' IP.

 

it's legal, and it is not stealing. see the Doha Declaration $5 b. this has happened in South Africa and Thailand as well.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doha_Declaration

on Mar 28, 2013

"However, in order for the decision to have legal effect, two-thirds of the WTO's 153 Members are required to ratify the agreement. The European Union's acceptance only brings the number to 41.[2]"

Possibly not quite as 'legal' as it wants to be....

Dang it ...Wiki screwed with the font...

on Mar 28, 2013


...or we could improve our lot with a Union Carbide factory....

Whether or not there's price-gouging for some bullshit Super Mario brothers is irrelevant.  Most [if not all] businesses require IT ...you know....computers and such...and they need proper OS software [not backyarders with script-kiddie prop hats]...and it's the manufacturers of THOSE that are being taken to task....not how much C and C costs....

 

businesses do not do depreciations in Australia?

also i think the original post was about downloadable content. Adobe is hardly a manufacturer.

on Mar 28, 2013

Adobe is hardly a manufacturer.

??????

on Mar 28, 2013

businesses do not do depreciations in Australia?

also i think the original post was about downloadable content. Adobe is hardly a manufacturer.

Moshi....'manufacturer' as in 'publisher' of software....this is primarily about software.

Jafo types slowly............

Price gouging of MS/Apple/Adobe software ...all of which are required for/by industry/commerce/etc. ...

on Mar 28, 2013


"However, in order for the decision to have legal effect, two-thirds of the WTO's 153 Members are required to ratify the agreement. The European Union's acceptance only brings the number to 41.[2]"

Possibly not quite as 'legal' as it wants to be....

Dang it ...Wiki screwed with the font...

 

the disagreement is only about §6. 

on Mar 28, 2013

Theft is theft. Voting/formulating does not change wrong into right.

Try voting on taking something out of my house without my permission. You'll find out quickly enough that 'might' have Orthopedic and Reconstructive surgical consequences.

on Mar 28, 2013

Doc...it's like the 'right' a police officer is supposed to have to commandeer your car if it's needed to assist him in his duty.

That thingie moshi refers to is about side-stepping a source to manufacture medicine in an 'emergency'...vaccines, etc.

It's not actually intended as a "you can reverse engineer my chemicals and copy it and sell it as a generic in competition".

Anyone inferring that has missed its intent.... a bit like that 'right to bare arms' [sic] ....

on Mar 28, 2013



Quoting moshi, reply 34businesses do not do depreciations in Australia?

also i think the original post was about downloadable content. Adobe is hardly a manufacturer.

Moshi....'manufacturer' as in 'publisher' of software....this is primarily about software.

Jafo types slowly............

Price gouging of MS/Apple/Adobe software ...all of which are required for/by industry/commerce/etc. ...

 

thanks for the correction. 

 

on Mar 28, 2013

DrJBHL

Theft is theft. Voting/formulating does not change wrong into right.

Try voting on taking something out of my house without my permission. You'll find out quickly enough that 'might' have Orthopedic and Reconstructive surgical consequences.

 

you are aware that such things happen all the time (although to a lesser extent in the US than the rest of the world)? people get driven out of their houses for the common good to build dams, mines, roads, etc. ?

one might dislike that, but most often it is perfectly legal.

 

on the issue of compulsory licenses for generics i disagree with you. this by my definition is not theft. western prices for medicine in developing countries is a travesty and those predators that want to make more profit with healing one person for $100000 instead of 1000 people for $90 deserve to be punished.

on Jun 20, 2013

Price Gouging in Oz

and so it continues....  link....     

on Jun 20, 2013

sydneysiders
and so it continues....  link....     

nothing wrong with a surcharge if it's to recover costs, you can't make a profit out of it ... i've yet to see the authorities take to task most surcharges. It's usually us  having to sue a business for recovering costs, then they might do something about it. 

Would be nice if there were someone proactive in looking at surcharges ...

 

 

 

 

on Jun 20, 2013

you are aware that such things happen all the time (although to a lesser extent in the US than the rest of the world)? people get driven out of their houses for the common good to build dams, mines, roads, etc. ?

And that, I suppose, makes it right?

The "common good"? That might just involve a political supporter's construction company...and just try to fight that steam roller.

tazgecko
Would be nice if there were someone proactive in looking at surcharges ...

There migt be, taz...but that's little assurance he/she won't be subject to political/economic "pressures" and "considerations".

on Jun 20, 2013

DrJBHL
And that, I suppose, makes it right?

i did not say that. you were talking about that some practices would be illegal or theft. they are not.

if something is legal or illegal has nothing to do wether it is right or wrong. the first is law, the second is personal opinion.

i for example consider large parts of sharia law to be wrong. others (also on this forum) seem to like the eye-for-an-eye approach and capital punishment.

but no matter wether one considers it right or wrong it is still the base of the law in Qatar or Saudi Arabia (legal).

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