Ramblings of an old Doc
Published on January 2, 2013 By DrJBHL In Personal Computing

 

Well, everyone knows about the two data recorders in airplanes. But cars? Really?

Ostensibly, it’s the NHTSA (National Highway Traffic Safety Administration) which is recommending this for cars, and if they have their way, we might see them in cars by 2014.

This rulemaking proposal is called:

DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION
National Highway Traffic Safety
Administration
49 CFR Part 571
[Docket No. NHTSA–2012–0177]
RIN 2127–AK86
Federal Motor Vehicle Safety
Standards; Event Data Recorders
AGENCY: National Highway Traffic
Safety Administration (NHTSA),
Department of Transportation.
ACTION: Notice of proposed rulemaking
(NPRM).

Their motives as outlined here:

http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/FR-2012-12-13/pdf/2012-30082.pdf

sound pure enough. All they want is a few seconds before, during and after the crash to aid in making cars more reliable.

So… sounds like a good idea, no? There won’t be a voice recorder. Yet. It wouldn’t be hard to add, though.

What would they record? Well, obviously speed, throttle voltage, brake lights, ignition, number of passengers, seat belt status, and what would all that be worth without location, right? After all, speed without location isn’t very helpful. It would be triggered to record (actually, to keep what it already is keeping in its buffer) by a sharp turn, braking, and hard bumps as well as any collision. What’s proposed is 30 seconds of data. At this point.

Well, if there’s an accident the insurance company is sure to get the data… and be able to find a reason (any reason) to deny your claim. Already they are offering lower rates for folks who voluntarily plug in a data recorder of sorts which transmits data to them. That’s the negative.

It could be so much more: It could save lives.

I’d rather see an effort to have data recorded which would really tell an operator what’s going on in his engine and with the other systems in his car. All that’s really needed is a large buffer (not necessarily in the car itself) and a diagnostic algorithm. The Cloud might be a good place (if location is rigorously encrypted) for such a buffer. It wouldn’t have to be going 24/7/365…it could record only in cases of significant problems, and then alert the operator immediately along with a report for the mechanic.

Legal aspects shouldn’t be ignored. It might also help in finding the guilty party/ies and help in assessing liability but I don’t believe that should be the primary function. It could save many lives if someone listens.

Source:

http://www.lockergnome.com/news/2013/01/02/is-big-brother-heading-to-your-car/

http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/FR-2012-12-13/pdf/2012-30082.pdf


Comments (Page 2)
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on Jan 02, 2013

ALMonty
No Gforce display. That would be cool though. 
Just put a hot cup of coffee on your dashboard, it will give you plenty of cornering feedback.

BTW, Happy New Year to you, ALMonty.

on Jan 02, 2013

ALMonty
What you really have to look out for is EZpass. When you go through a toll it records the time. When you hit the next toll that records the time and calculates the mph you were traveling. If you were way above the speed limit it sends out a warning and they can send you a ticket for speeding on that road.

We have speed cameras in Australia already doing that....

on Jan 03, 2013

Happy New Year to you Wiz!!

Jafo we have intersection cameras here. If you don't come to a complete stop turning right on a red light they take a picture. When they send you a ticket there is a link to show you what you did. $85 offense.

on Jan 03, 2013

AlMonty... was only saying, "You can't win." ... you save on the insurance, but the plan costs more than you save. Typical... if I didn't know better, I'd say it was rigged that way.

 

on Jan 03, 2013

Of course it's rigged. Companies wouldn't be making money if they didn't.

on Jan 03, 2013

ALMonty
Jafo we have intersection cameras here. If you don't come to a complete stop turning right on a red light they take a picture. When they send you a ticket there is a link to show you what you did. $85 offense.

No...I was refering to speed vs distance cameras....you are logged at one point...and checked a few miles later at a second camera...and the time taken determines average speed...and you cop a fine if you get to the second one too soon....essentially what you mentioned...hence the quote...

on Jan 03, 2013

We also have police officers with radar guns that could catch you speeding. 

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