Ramblings of an old Doc

 

Bad news if you’re relying MSE to protect you against malware, A-V Test reports.

MSE dropped to 10.5 out of a possible 18. Other software dropped 1-2 points as well.

AVG Anti-Virus Free Edition and VIPRE Internet Security were among 16 of the 23 products tested which dropped in their scores.

You can get the full report here: http://www.av-test.org/en/tests/home-user/windows-7/sepoct-2012/

BitDefender, F-Secure Internet Security and Kaspersky Internet Security scored the highest, which has been a trend. Norton scored 15, down slightly from its prior 15.5.

The business products scored similar values.

So, if you’re in the market for a security product, keep the above in mind. Also, I always suggest two additional steps: Be careful about where you browse and use a Guest Account for your browsing. That way, your Administrator privileges are not accessible by any malware you encounter and deny any installation of software to that  Guest Account.. Virtual browsing is a good measure, too. Also… make a disc image every week.

Source:

http://securitywatch.pcmag.com/none/305401-microsoft-fails-av-test-certification


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on Dec 02, 2012

DrJBHL
You might really consider browsing with Comodo Dragon (or Ice Dragon)... it's Chrome with much higher security, and uses the same extensions.

Yeah, I have Ice Dragon installed, but I'm currently in FF as I'm still setting it up with my bookmarks and addons, etc.  However, it does look promising and I'll be sure to give it a fair go to decide if it will be my default browser or not.  With its added security features I'm guessing it might very well be.

on Dec 03, 2012

What's the point of a AV program if it does not do real time scanning?

on Dec 03, 2012

kona0197
What's the point of a AV program if it does not do real time scanning?


Quoting kona0197, reply 39I used Clam AV until I found out it does not do any real time scanning.

It runs only on our network server which doesn't have much need for real-time scanning.

If you want real-time scanning that won't load the old box down, see my reply #45

on Dec 03, 2012

Thanks, Wiz.  Immunet sounds interesting but Server 2003 is not one of the OS's listed as supported.

 

on Dec 03, 2012

kona0197
What's the point of a AV program if it does not do real time scanning?

In our case, the server is a file-server only (no Exchange) and touches the internet only for AV signature file updates and Windows Security updates, making real-time scanning less of an issue.  It runs a scan daily and we have daily redundant backups.  With our setup, our workstations are 'guarding the server' rather than the other way around.  We are currently using MSSE on the workstations because it's free, but these sorts of reports have us considering going to a paid option.  Our tech support vendor is currently recommending McAfee products as he feels they seem to have a more sensitive finger on the pulse and are quicker to respond to zero-day exploits.  FWIW.

on Dec 05, 2012

MSE + common sense works out for me..

on Dec 07, 2012

LightStar
Never had any problem whatsoever with MSE here. Funny how all the top rated ones have to be paid for.

 

 

I bet the malware coming and going did not have any problem with your MSE installation either False sense of security, that's all Windows users need to sleep well.

on Dec 07, 2012

Well I finally got around to installing Comodo Internet Security last night and I must say that on the whole I'm quite pleased with it.  Apart from being a breeze to install, it seems to use few system resources, even when scanning.  It did find a couple of false positives and sandbox them during the initial scan, Winstep Workshelf and Fastone Image Viewer, but upon completion this had been corrected and the apps were released to full usage again. 

Yup, I like having my security tools [AV/Firewall, etc] all in one toolbox, and Comodo has done a better job of it than Norton IMHO, so I'm feeling happier and safer with it onboard.  Also, it is more configurable than I remember Norton being, so I feel more in control as well... as in I can choose from "Safe" to "Proactive" modes if I want to.

on Dec 07, 2012

Wonder if I should switch. Running AVG myself. Is Comodo lighter on resources?

on Dec 07, 2012

starkers
Well I finally got around to installing Comodo Internet Security last night and I must say that on the whole I'm quite pleased with it.  Apart from being a breeze to install, it seems to use few system resources, even when scanning.  It did find a couple of false positives and sandbox them during the initial scan, Winstep Workshelf and Fastone Image Viewer, but upon completion this had been corrected and the apps were released to full usage again. 

Yup, I like having my security tools [AV/Firewall, etc] all in one toolbox, and Comodo has done a better job of it than Norton IMHO, so I'm feeling happier and safer with it onboard.  Also, it is more configurable than I remember Norton being, so I feel more in control as well... as in I can choose from "Safe" to "Proactive" modes if I want to.

Give Comodo Dragon (browser based on Chrome) a shot. Very fast and if you use their portal, super private/anonymous. Add Ad-block and whichever other extensions you like...

on Dec 07, 2012

DrJBHL
Give Comodo Dragon (browser based on Chrome) a shot. Very fast and if you use their portal, super private/anonymous. Add Ad-block and whichever other extensions you like...

I'm actually using Comodo IceDragon and I find it quite good to use.  It is based on Firefox but it seems more secure and is just as customisable. I suppose I could always install Dragon and compare the two, to see if I'm keeping one or the other or both.  Thing is, I do like their software, so much so that I may ditch Firefox and some other system tools entirely.  I have been using Iobit's Advanced System Care to clean and optimise, but Comodo have something quite similar that I may switch to if it compares favourably.

on Dec 08, 2012

Running NIS 2013 which is free from Comcast..............a sterling performer with a very light footprint 

on Dec 08, 2012

kona0197
Wonder if I should switch. Running AVG myself. Is Comodo lighter on resources?

I've not run AVG so Im not aware of its impact, but Comodo has a fairly small footprint on my machine.  However, given my rig is fairly high end, I couldn't say how Coodo would run on yours.  Thing is, you could try it to see how well your machine runs it.  If that's well, all well and good... if not well you've lost nothing as it is free to use on home PC's.

on Dec 08, 2012

starkers

Quoting Jafo, reply 19Did I jump on THEIR website and piss and moan that the bastards scammed me with a useless sub because I had updated MY OS to something new?

No.

What samatter wiv you, then?  I mean, faark, it's frickin' obligatory to piss, moan and bitch when ya bin ripped off, init!

It's like there's no lead in yer pencil, um, no resin in yer glue.

No wonder the bastards keep doing it, sticking it to the little bloke, nobody f***ing complains anymore.

Ya know, I wrote to Arnotts the other day... to complain about the biscuits... how the one on each end is always broken.

I got a letter back!  Yeah, it surprised the f**k out of me as well, but there it was... a letter.

It said: "Thank you for your enquiry and be pleased to know that, for your convenience, we shall leave those out in the future."

 

 hahaha

well we tested the windows defender a bit last week, on 2 identical computers same hardware setup same software, we downloaded a random keygen from the web that we tested via virus total in advanve. (i recommend not to try this kind of stuff at your home PC unless you know what you are doing since it might end badly for your pc health)
The keygen was listed by 8 programs on virus total as Keygen- every other program listed was silent about the content and marked the file as good.
keep in mind that the file was still compressed.
Ok now before we grabbed the keygen we updated Wdefender and rebooted.
We then downloaded the file simultaneous... 

here is the point where strange stuff happend..
as soon as my little keygen was downloaded windows defender popped up and warned me about the keygen...
(the keygen was still compressed)
on the second computer nothing happend... no pop up window nothing -
My buddy began to laugh and looked a bit confused at the same time we checked defender settings to be sure nothing else was different on his defender setup.
then we unpacked the keygen on to his desktop ( note after unpacking defender remained silent )and made a defined search with defender.
defender said that everything in that folder is ok and no threat at all...
we repeated that test... nothing happend
back to my computer i unpacked it and defender started to warn me again.

We could figure out why it does warn one User but not the second, we contacted MS about this, they took note but there was no feedback about it.
That is why i went and got a shield that does the job 





 

on Dec 08, 2012

Roloccolor
(the keygen was still compressed)

It's possible the keygen was actually clean....but the compression algorythm used kicked the warning into action...

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