Ramblings of an old Doc

 

With Windows 8 barely out of the womb, this isn’t the best of news. He was the driving force behind the newest MS OS.

Julie Larson-Green who was a lead engineer of Windows 7 has been promoted to lead all Windows software and hardware engineering. Tami Reller will take on managing the business side of Windows. Good luck with that, Ms. Reller. Business hasn’t been embracing Windows 8.

MS hasn’t revealed Sinofsky’s reason for leaving and stated it was a “mutual decision”, not being a “team player” has been rumored. Sinofsky had nothing but good things to say about Microsoft.

“The timing of Sinofsky’s departure is surprising, given that it comes just weeks after the launch of Windows 8. Microsoft’s Windows 8 launch event was seen as underwhelming in some quarters, as it was a missed opportunity to connect with customers on changes to the new operating system. That was hardly the only bump with the Windows 8 debut. After a strong initial weekend of upgrades to Windows 8, some reports indicate that customers are responding slowly to Windows 8, particularly with some of its interface changes.” -  James Niccolai PCWorld

Maybe it's really about a good OS whose time really hasn't come just yet. Most folks don't rush to embrace change. Most folks don't really understand computers and learning "what they need" to do their work and interact is all they want. While younger people embrace connectivity and colorful change and being "with it", older folks (like me) like familiarity with the OS and a lack of having to learn something new, for better or worse.

Well, many saw Steve Sinofsky as Ballmer's "heir apparent". I guess that's not to be.

Source:

http://www.pcworld.com/article/2013853/windows-head-steven-sinofsky-leaves-microsoft.html


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on Nov 13, 2012

I dunno.  I was slow to abandon XP because it 'worked' but once I had to use Win7 because there was no other option, I quickly became convinced I'd been stupidly stubborn.  Us old farts can learn to appreciate change.  I even came to prefer Office 2010 over prior versions (which also 'worked') though on that score the gains more or less equaled the losses - I just like the gains more than I miss the losses.

That aside, Sinofsky's departure has to mean they've been getting vicious private feedback to go along with the public scorn heaped on Win8.

The real problem is Ballmer (IMHO), but there's nobody to tell the silly emperor he has no clothes.

on Nov 13, 2012

The real problem is Ballmer (IMHO), but there's nobody to tell the silly emperor he has no clothes.

Yes, and probably why Sinofsky resigned.  Thing is, Win 8 is not a bad OS.  However, the changes are too great for some and it's not selling as well as perhaps Ballmer had hoped, meaning somebody has to be the fallguy, though Sinofsky jumped before he was pushed.  It's a shame, really, because Win 8 is a solid OS with a lot going for it, and being Sinofsky's brainchild it should really be him who takes Windows forward and into the next phase of modern computing.

on Nov 13, 2012

starkers
It's a shame, really, because Win 8 is a solid OS with a lot going for it, and being Sinofsky's brainchild it should really be him who takes Windows forward and into the next phase of modern computing.

So you must have been talking about this then starkers, right?

on Nov 14, 2012

Posted this in another thread but what the hell

http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2012/11/why-steven-sinofsky-is-out-at-microsoft/

Moreover, if Windows 8 were the problem, there's no way that Julie Larson-Green would be selected to lead Windows engineering. Larson-Green was a trusted Sinofsky lieutenant who came with him to Windows from the Office team and led the development of Windows 8's controversial user interface. If Windows 8 does prove to be a failure, then it's as much on Larson-Green's head as it is Sinofsky's.

Use some common sense, people...it would be impossible to beat products available for years (Android or iOS) with products that've been generally available for less than a month.

on Nov 14, 2012

starkers

Yes, and probably why Sinofsky resigned.  Thing is, Win 8 is not a bad OS.  However, the changes are too great for some and it's not selling as well as perhaps Ballmer had hoped, meaning somebody has to be the fallguy, though Sinofsky jumped before he was pushed.  It's a shame, really, because Win 8 is a solid OS with a lot going for it, and being Sinofsky's brainchild it should really be him who takes Windows forward and into the next phase of modern computing.

Posted this in another thread but what the hell

http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2012/11/why-steven-sinofsky-is-out-at-microsoft/


Moreover, if Windows 8 were the problem, there's no way that Julie Larson-Green would be selected to lead Windows engineering. Larson-Green was a trusted Sinofsky lieutenant who came with him to Windows from the Office team and led the development of Windows 8's controversial user interface. If Windows 8 does prove to be a failure, then it's as much on Larson-Green's head as it is Sinofsky's.


Use some common sense, people...it would be impossible to beat products available for years (Android or iOS) with products that've been generally available for less than a month.

Two folks talking sense here.  

Windows 8 was never going to be an instant success.  It's a directional shift for MS.  Good or bad, it'll take time to play out.  Anyone observing that it isn't instantly number 1 in market share or that it isn't instantly the fastest growing thing ever is either clueless or has an axe to grind.   

Like any major initiative, they'll get some of it right and they'll adapt what they got wrong.  Apple didn't instantly get righted when Jobs came back.  Android wasn't the fastest growing mobile OS when they released it.  Those changes took years. 

on Nov 14, 2012

Use some common sense, people...it would be impossible to beat products available for years (Android or iOS) with products that've been generally available for less than a month.

I believe that markets determine value. If MS builds a better mousetrap, then it'll sell very well. If not, then not. It might take time to reach the threshold necessary to go viral... ok. But, the market will decide. I hope Stardock's Start8, etc. will help MS. I like variety. I want everyone to succeed. However, Sinofsky's leaving MS so close to its launch was not a good thing... it does not send a message of "success".

on Nov 14, 2012

Win 8 is nothing more than a test bed. Same as Vista with all the bloat. What works they'll keep...what doesn't goes to the the shit can. Win 9 will probably have the best of both 7 & 8. IMO

on Nov 14, 2012

Microsoft screwed up.

They made a drastic difference to their OS without a way to go back to the way it was. 

The proper way to implement this would have been a dual-implementation and then gauge interest over whether customers like your 'new' setup.

Improvements to the background are great.

Deciding the best way to use a computer for me?  Not great.

on Nov 14, 2012

Win 8 is nothing more than a test bed. Same as Vista with all the bloat. What works they'll keep...what doesn't goes to the the shit can. Win 9 will probably have the best of both 7 & 8. IMO

That would be the best thing for them.

on Nov 14, 2012

DrJBHL
I believe that markets determine value. If MS builds a better mousetrap, then it'll sell very well. If not, then not. It might take time to reach the threshold necessary to go viral... ok. But, the market will decide. I hope Stardock's Start8, etc. will help MS. I like variety. I want everyone to succeed. However, Sinofsky's leaving MS so close to its launch was not a good thing... it does not send a message of "success".

I don't really care about Sinovsky.  I've heard enough about him over the years to think (despite obviously being very smart) he wasn't necessarily the best person to be affecting anything but the Windows team.  I agree that the timing is very awkward, but it's probably for the best.

Other than that...

I'm really not sure what you're trying to say.  Whatever the market decides, it still takes time to build a userbase.  Even if Windows 8 is generally viewed as fantastic, so is Windows 7 so there will be far less conversions.  Neither XP nor Vista were a great option when 7 rolled around, 7 was still a great option on 8s release.

It's unlikely 8 will sell as well just because of that.

Either way all my machines are being upgraded asap.

on Nov 14, 2012

They released a version of windows that was radically different and in such a way to really not make it clear why anyone would want to immediately "reinvest" in it.

Whimsical pictures and flowery statements do not a marketing campaign make for tech.

 

on Nov 14, 2012

Anyone heard yet if any big corporations are going to invest in 8? Heck I know some places around here that still use XP!!

on Nov 15, 2012

kona0197
Anyone heard yet if any big corporations are going to invest in 8? Heck I know some places around here that still use XP!!

Shoot, there's a small supermarket chain here that still uses 2000... despite repeated warnings of it being unsupported and susceptible to malware.

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