Ramblings of an old Doc

 

It never ceases to amaze me just how our rights are violated to make someone a profit every day.

The newest twist (according to Sean Gallagher) is by tracing your cellphone signal strength as you enter and walk around in a mall. This new method

pioneered by Path Intelligence (http://www.pathintelligence.com/) essentially turns your cellphone into a tracking cookie.

 

What begs the question is however the simple fact that this cellphone data can be cross-indexed with credit card purchases, effectively identifying, and indexing “walk by” vs. “purchasing” populations down to the actual identity of the unsuspecting person.

These feckless “data entrepreneurs” (aka spies) have the nerve to state “warnings” are posted, so the public is informed. Here’s their purported “warning” which tells no one anything in the least visible manner possible:

 

It doesn’t state the method used, and is presented in the least attention attracting method possible, in the dullest colors on a mall map along with the url. No one intent on finishing his/her shopping would check that (a fact they have certainly researched and are counting on).

In an effort to expose this, and as a service to our British members, all I can tell you is the mall involved is a Forest City property. I cannot find the identity. They are not quite “transparent”.

Their nefarious efforts are not limited to England, where they can get away with it legally. They are in America also:

In the US, Footpath is being trailed in two malls by “Forest City” (http://www.forestcity.net/Pages/default.aspx), a mall real estate company that owns malls and shopping centers nationwide. Promenade Temecula in Temecula, California, and Short Pump Town Center in Richmond, Virginia are the sites of choice; the trial started twelve days ago, and will run through New Years.” – Sean Gallagher (link above)

Here in America, we are (paradoxically) protected from this type of behavior by “The Patriot Act”:

“There's just one problem with this type of detailed tracking: it's technically illegal, according to Mark Rasch, the director of cyber security at CSC. Thanks to court interpretations of provisions in the Patriot Act, he said in a recent blog, devices that measure cell phones' signal strength could be considered to be "pen registers"—monitoring devices that require a warrant.

"Although this mall technology might not identify specific individuals, it raises a bunch of privacy red flags," he wrote. "First, the instant the consumer identifies himself or herself anywhere in the mall (say, by using a credit or debit card to buy something), it is a trivial task to cross reference the cell phone data with the payment data and realize that the person hanging around outside the Victoria’s Secret dressing room was your 70-year-old neighbor."” – Sean Gallagher (http://arstechnica.com/business/news/2011/11/were-watching-malls-track-shoppers-cell-phone-signals-to-gather-marketing-data.ars)

I wonder if anything will come of that.

In case you were wondering, some malls are also using facial recognition software to track shoppers. That is illegal as well.

In summary, I’d like to see these folks (all of them) brought to justice. I also know nothing like that will ever happen. The most I can do is tell you about it, and by doing so warn you.

 

Sources:

http://storefrontbacktalk.com/securityfraud/mobile-tracking-would-be-great-if-it-werent-illegal-what-everything-has-to-be-perfect-with-you/

http://arstechnica.com/business/news/2011/11/were-watching-malls-track-shoppers-cell-phone-signals-to-gather-marketing-data.ars

 

 

 


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on Nov 26, 2011

I wouldn't be surprised if untrackable / harder to track consumer technology would be the next step in this field. There's definitely a market for it.

on Nov 26, 2011

... this is absurd.

If we need the freaking PATRIOT Act to protect us from cell-phone tracking in stores, then I think the entire Fourth Amendment doctrine needs a serious reworking.

on Nov 26, 2011

Fascinating conversation.  The bigger picture is, of course, the sense of entitlement 'marketing' 'people' have towards the rest of us.  Their run amok drive to acquire (rules of acquisition, anyone?) every last penny of divivdends is emulisfying Civil Society.  Civility is going the way of the Do Do bird (last one was eaten by hungry visitor?).  Every basic value, consideration, kindness, civic responsibility, mutual respect of individuals, is now derived not from human dignity, but from the 'invisible hand' of the free market and the corporations spawned by this free market.   We have created a world that, for many of us, is even more perlious then George Orwells' 1984.  His political nightmare took longer to get here.  Its encased in a plush valvet glove.  

And everyone who shops (still has disposable money) loves big brother.  Bring on the sales.  Where did I put my pepper spray? 

on Nov 26, 2011

This all comes down to one thing, choices. 

As a society, in these technical times, we are given or have thrown at us lots of devices that are said to improve our lives and make it so much better.  But do they really?  We all react like we a children receiving toys, 'I want' becomes the phrase of the day.  There are very few of us that even thinks or look past the pretty wrapper about what using these 'toys' means.

Whenever one of us dares to ask the question 'How did our parents ever get through the day without this?' we are very quickly pushed to the side of the road.

Also, does anyone listen to the reasons or excuses that are given for needing these items of technology. 

I'm not against the use of technology in our lives, just the miss use of it. 

 

 

 

on Nov 26, 2011

Well, when you look at history, I don't know how strongly all our most important values were ever collectively derived from human dignity. It's never really been a choice. And that can be either viewed as a blessing in the olden times or a cause for the problems of free market today.

on Nov 26, 2011

Slowly even erosion creeps into the most corrupt of societies. Who said we had cornered the market on it? Hmmm

on Nov 26, 2011

DrJBHL
Hoi, Pizza Boi! Good to see you!

 

 

They don't let me out much any more, some crap about being a barbarian in a civilized world, or some such nonsense. Ya burgle one too many pizzas and folks go all ballistic..

on Nov 26, 2011

Philly0381, recently I've begun to wonder if there will be a larger pushback with regards to this high tech craze. I was born and raised with pretty much every single high tech gizmo that I could dream of. I am an IT expert now and know my way around technology perfectly. But in the past year or so, I've gotten rid of my smart phone (I have a very cheap Nokia phone that has some functions but not a lot), lost all interest on getting any new toys and generally just enjoy a more simplistic life tech-wise.

I don't know if I'm just an exception or whether a lot more people will snap out of the tech craze and try to make the tech adapt to your life, not the other way around. I still use technology, but it has begun to seriously lose its control over me. I'm still somewhat addicted to being online when at home, but that's something that wouldn't be that hard of an habit to kick should I get motivation to do it.

on Nov 26, 2011

None of it existed in the 50's and 60's, that's my time. I'm happy with my laptop. No cell phone or any of that other stuff. Don't need all that other stuff. But my lappy ..... I'd use that 24/7 if I could.

on Nov 26, 2011

HG_Eliminator
Quoting DrJBHL, reply 15Hoi, Pizza Boi! Good to see you!

 

 

They don't let me out much any more, some crap about being a barbarian in a civilized world, or some such nonsense. Ya burgle one too many pizzas and folks go all ballistic..

Go figure.

 

on Nov 26, 2011

Sir_Linque, as I said I'm not against technology just the miss use of it. 

I'm somewhat older, born in '48 so I'm a child of the 50's 60's.  I can remember well when personal technology started with the tranistor radio and hand held calculator.  Usefull items untill the marketing folks got hold of them. 

Fast forward to cell phones and you have the same thing.  Adults where not buying them in the numbers expected so lets market it to the children, there is where the real growth market is.

on Nov 26, 2011

I'm a bit tired and I don't understand what the alarm is about.

so the mall tracks your phone. But how can they know whos phone it is?

And how does this benefit the mall?   I don't get it

on Nov 26, 2011

Campaigner if they can track the phone it stands to reason the can get the number, with the number all the identity doors open up.  It's just 'Big Brother' keeping track of you.  Should you worry.............

on Nov 26, 2011

the best way of stuffing the 'cross-indexers' is to pay CASH and not use a 'card'(and also request a CASH discount as the 'card's usually have a processing FEE of atleast 1%(this also hurts the finance companies that supply the 'card's))

harpo

 

on Nov 26, 2011

Sir_Linque
Philly0381, recently I've begun to wonder if there will be a larger pushback with regards to this high tech craze. I was born and raised with pretty much every single high tech gizmo that I could dream of. I am an IT expert now and know my way around technology perfectly. But in the past year or so, I've gotten rid of my smart phone (I have a very cheap Nokia phone that has some functions but not a lot), lost all interest on getting any new toys and generally just enjoy a more simplistic life tech-wise.

I don't know if I'm just an exception or whether a lot more people will snap out of the tech craze and try to make the tech adapt to your life, not the other way around. I still use technology, but it has begun to seriously lose its control over me. I'm still somewhat addicted to being online when at home, but that's something that wouldn't be that hard of an habit to kick should I get motivation to do it.

My sentiments entirely....

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