Now it looks like Adobe is giving up on Flash for HDTV's as well.

This won't make Google very happy... Google TV is already looking poorly, and this might just be the kiss off.

http://mashable.com/2011/11/10/adobe-abandon-flash-tvs/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+mashable%2Ftech+%28Mashable+%C2%BB+Tech%29

I did not know since i use 64 bits Flash on Linux since 2008... and recently ( 4 oct 2011 ) the 64 bits FlashPlayer 11 on linux x64 and Windows XP pro x64...

64 bits Flash exist... the problem is that it don't work correctly... by example, when using your browser and visiting multiple page in tabed mode, all the flash thing from the several page stack themself... Minimize the browser and all flash publicity, remain on the desktop... when it crash, it completely frooze your computer on only cut the power is the only solution...

flash 64 bit exist but it is so bad that i don't recommend somebody to use it... Abode have wait to much long for begin move to the 64 bit world and what they give us now is not better that a bugged alpha version...

By the way, Apple is not the only "cause" of the Adobe "give-up" :

- No flash player in windows 8 : http://www.macuser.co.uk/5470-microsoft-ditches-flash-support-in-tablet-version-of-internet-explorer

- IE9 for windows phone don't support flash : http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2387190,00.asp#fbid=McQbuONLE1a

Everybody move to HTML5... no a so bad thing... after all flash have maybe more vulnerability that any other software ( http://www.securityfocus.com/cgi-bin/index.cgi?o=0&l=100&c=12&op=display_list&vendor=Adobe&title=Flash%20Player )... in 2009, adobe reader and flash was the second target from attack... become number one target for attack in 2010... ( http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/10257411 )... in 2011, Adobe reader and flash was responsible for ALL the crash that i have know when i use open-solaris or Linux !!! ( add Steam for my windows BSOD )...

"The HTML5 syntax is no longer based on SGML despite the similarity of its markup. It has, however, been designed to be backward compatible with common parsing of older versions of HTML."

I don't see why a potential futur HMTL 6 will break the compatibility with previous version of HTML... if you make now a site using HTML5, i bet that it will work in HTML6, HTML7, HTML8, ... HTML3422

Don't make a similar mistake with HTML 5... a lot of people are already moving to HTML5 : http://www.binvisions.com/articles/how-many-percentage-web-sites-using-html5/

Its the fat money cows at the top of adobe who spend there time figuring out whats profitable than being innovative. whatever happened to macromedia anyway? Why did adobe take over?

Here's why I got into flash at the start.  In the beginning, there was nothing like it.  the fact that a million people did stupid things to annoy us with it didn't make it valueless --it had a lot of uses.

The biggest thing it did was give me complete control of the user experience.  You could see it in safari or mozilla or explorer and it was the size I set it for and displayed and ran as intended.  It also made it much easier to protect proprietary content.

Not big deals to a programmer or a user but to people making a living in web design, flash had a lot of utility. Interoperability with php, java, asp and C+...all sorts of things.

When java first came along it was surfing poison--slow browser experience, broken, non-standardized implementations, etc.  But over time, java continued to evolve.  Today's java isn't the java of ten years ago.  Flash failed to develop in the same ways.  Hardware is really what dealt the coup-de-gras to flash.  Failure to adapt to it, to leverage its capabilities and the like.

I love HTML 5's promise but it has a lot of development to go to meet flash's general utility.  A larger concern is that one company can use its market dominance with a separate product to single out and eliminate a service provider-product it doesn't like. No different than the days when Microsoft was telling vendors--use our implementation and utilities or lose our business with you.

I was already converting my site to HTML 5 awhile Thoumsin.  Saw it coming....but I had to lose some functionality with it to do it and it has a lot more potential vulnerability now in certain areas.

Flash has supported 64 bit browsers since version 11, with a perfectly working runtime.

Version 11 is also on mobile platforms, so it hardly matters yet that they've ceased future development on mobile platforms.

Flash works fine in Win8, just pull up IE on the desktop.  In the Metro version, no plugins are enabled.

Why is everyone complaining? I mean that the computer died before the Big Bang.

HTML 5 is superior...in those areas where it is capable of duplicating Flash's capabilities.  In the areas where it can't, it's useless in comparison.

Again, Flash is used for more than video. 

What grates on IT and developer wonks is a third party, proprietary application that can leverage program capabilities beyond the browser--the solution for them is, "Get rid of Flash".  Steve Jobs was of course happy to oblige for a variety of reasons.

If Apple had acquired Flash and it had gotten the focused and thinking-ahead attention that they devote to their other product development it would be touted as the next big thing.

The proof of the bigger problem is Adobe's complete inability to even know how to go about rebutting the anti-flash crowd. 

"For lack of vision, the programs perish.".

Macromedia

Macromedia took Flash from a novelty and fun browser add-on all the way to a complete product used by nearly every major corporation in the world.  They were "small time players" compared to companies like Microsoft and there was rumor that MS might actually acquire them--which is why Adobe bought Flash.  Basically, Macromedia got $3.4 billion USD for it.  Too good to refuse.

Here's a nice blog and perspective you won't get from the rock-throwers who don't even really know what to use Flash for and haven't given a thought to what might be done with it: http://www.junglecode.net/?p=57&cpage=1#comment-50

Consider this...the reason you now have a globally popular and accessible "YouTube" is because of the ubiquity of Flash when YouTube began.  It wouldn't have had the impetus to get where it is today without it.