Ramblings of an old Doc

 

TOS’s are pesky critters. An article I was writing had to be changed because it’s source has been taken down over at Neowin.com.

The article was about dropbox’s TOS, and it maintained they basically own everything you decide to upload there and can do anything they want with it.

On the page I can retrieve on dropbox, here’s what I found:

Note the second paragraph.

Not to belabor the point, this means anything you ever wrote, drew, painted, skinned, photographed or received and decided to use their service to store is theirs to do with as they like. All that “efficiency and ease” in transfer and storage suddenly doesn’t seem all that great, does it?

It includes research, you name it: You put it there it belongs to them, hence the title of this article. As if this weren’t bad enough, it’s up to you to verify and assure them

that everything they feel like taking is really yours because they wouldn’t want to be troubled by anyone else saying “Wait a minute, that’s mine!”.

 

That’s the classic definition of  “chutzpah” (Heb. “overweaning nerve, gall”), i.e. demanding the mercy of the court after being convicted of murdering your parents because you’re an orphan.

You can read what folks think about their kindly efforts to “simplify” things for us in the blog there http://blog.dropbox.com/?p=846

 

What makes it worse is the security flubs they've had (discovered last month) which basically left files stored there open for the taking.

 

People:  I’ve uninstalled dropbox. What you do is up to you.

Now start reading those TOS’s!


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on Jul 03, 2011


Quoting yrag, reply 3
All your bases is mine


 

What kind of fuckin' English is that??

 

 

 

 

Jaf is going to go berserk!!

Me love you long time ....

hehehe.

and here I was thinking I'd have to do research on shovel rentals.

doc is happy yrag escaped with his life.

 

Well, I hope I'm wrong about Google (though experience would dictate otherwise): http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/14/street-view-cars-mistakenly-nabs-personal-data-over-wifi-says-g/

Hopefully, Google+ is improving the privacy bugs which haunt facebook:  http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2387995,00.asp



 

on Jul 03, 2011

This is a link to the current story by Christopher White (the original initiated this article):

http://www.neowin.net/news/dropbox-legally-owns-all-of-your-files

 

on Jul 03, 2011

Here is a reply from the article Doc just linked.

oh,and by the way, before sombody starts screaming SugarSync; from their terms and conditions :

" Accordingly, you hereby grant to SugarSync a license: (i) to use, copy, transmit, distribute, store and cache Files that you choose to sync and/or store; and (ii) to copy, transmit, publish, and distribute to others the Files as you designate, whether through the sharing or public linking features of the Service, in each case solely to provide the Service to you."

Crud 

on Jul 03, 2011

myfist0
Crud

None of these cloud file storage facilities are trustworthy.... piss 'em all off, I say... piss 'em all off.

With the price of external drives these days [2TB for under $118] why would you bother with online storage that's dubious at best?

on Jul 03, 2011

I think because all HDDs fail. Just a question of whem.

In short, no way to win.

on Jul 03, 2011

DrJBHL
I think because all HDDs fail. Just a question of whem.

True... theirs too.  They might be in the 'so-called' cloud, but they still use physical media like we do to store stuff.

DrJBHL
In short, no way to win.

For mine, you win by keeping your own files on your own data base.  I have backups on HDD that are backed up on DVD/CD as well... I'm never depending on somebody else who may or may not have an agenda of their own for my data... never waiting on servers to come back online to access my photos, etc.

on Jul 03, 2011

I recently lost a 1tb HD and only the finished work was backed up. Talk about pissed off.

As a game modder we often use teams of talent to complete large projects and since MS stop Live Sync (comp to comp sharing) and went to the very unreliable Live Mesh (I call it Live Mess) I am sure lots of modders are using DB. Live Mess is also a cloud type service and probably has these copyright rules as well but as it was a POS service I stopped using it.

Here's a thread where I wrote about this before. https://forums.sinsofasolarempire.com/405880

So did MS drop Live Sync just to jump on the "stealing IP" bandwagon?

EDIT: As modders we typically use free file sharing services like FileFront. I am going to start to look at the TOS for the ones that I use. Any recommendations?

on Jul 03, 2011

Do nightly (daily for you night owls) backups unattended using 2 alternating USB drives & carry the one not being used with you.  They're cheap enough & small enough now.  Never lose more than one day's stuff.

Apple's iDrive might be safe.  Carbonite & Mozy are probable good (& probably safe) online backup options, but even then, concentrating that much personal information in one repository will eventually become too tempting to some Fed somewhere.

on Jul 03, 2011

Okay so what is the bottom line here if you have the need to send large files or any files to another computer or person?  Are any of these programs safe enough to use and not have your information or graphics all over the internet? 

on Jul 03, 2011

Philly0381
if you have the need to send large files or any files to another computer or person?

https://www.yousendit.com/

 

 

on Jul 03, 2011

starkers

With the price of external drives these days [2TB for under $118] why would you bother with online storage that's dubious at best?

It's alot easier sending/sharing images with friends/family by these shareing services. Chucking the files on an external HDD is also easy, but it's damn stoopeed snail-mailing it half-way around the world.

on Jul 04, 2011

Snowman
It's alot easier sending/sharing images with friends/family by these shareing services

For some, perhaps, but I never have anything I want to send that doesn't fit in an email.  Besides, everyone I might need to send photos/documents to [with the exception of my mother, who's now in the UK] is in face to face contact distance anyhow.

Snowman
Chucking the files on an external HDD is also easy, but it's damn stoopeed snail-mailing it half-way around the world.

Stupid or 2 reasons!  I: anything that goes airmail is X-rayed... thus damage to the HDD is probable.  2: Customs both ends can and do examine the contents, and I dunno that I'd want total strangers [who may or may not be unscrupulous] scrutinising my personal shit and family memories, etc.

For me, it's a case of trust nobody and never put anything I value, treasure or wish only to share with family and friends online.

on Jul 04, 2011

As usual... both are right.

Any way you go there's a catch. Great world we've made.

If you want total privacy drop of data you go the flash drive route, and transfer it in person. If you have to cross borders, you're screwed and that's because you're xrayed.

If you wish to go the cloud route, security will be compromised sooner or later.

So encrypt your files with BoxCryptor (boxcryptor.com) and share online. It's not free, but you get what you pay for.

 

on Jul 04, 2011

IIRC you can also password archives like .ZIP or .7Z files. Not sure how effective it would be though.

on Jul 04, 2011

How about this. Multiple layer encryption. You encrypt your files and or whatever one way then encrypt that, zip it up and encrypt that. Sounds funky right. Only problem is you'd better not forget how you did it cause if you do...oh well, done. Don't mean to make light of it but when you see all the nonsense out there you just got to stop and wonder.

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