You sir, are funny.,

Fact: A mob of Egyptians assaulted a female journalist sexually. I don't care which 'camp' they beloned to. I'd have terminated them on the spot and charged their families for the ammo.

Not angry with you however you miss the point totally. It matters not "why" they did it. It matters not "who" or how many. It was 100% wrong. Understand? Action: Termination on the spot. No justifications.

This is not a game. This happened to a real life person, and has happened as part of their degenerate culture that objectifies females, dresses them in 'female containment devices' and mutilates them with 'surgery' designed to make them faithful to their inadequate, twisted 'males'.

Post#120.

Post#113.

Since you seem...conflicted... here's what happened: A violent, vicious, unprovoked and unjustifiable attack was perpetrated on a fellow human being by a mob of semi/illiterate beasts. They raped her. No more needs be said except I'm sorry I wasn't there with my platoon. The criminals would have found out what violence is all about...

Done explaining the obvious.

I think it's time to end this OT discussion.

 

DR., the funny comment was meant for you. That got a good laugh out of me.

Not understanding.... what about a mob antisemitic, sexual attack on a person is funny?

Your post with the picture of Gore.

Charming.

Of course it matters. You wouldn't want to "terminate" the wrong ones, would you? ....would you?

Whichever group they sided with is partially responsible for their actions. However, it is impossible to assign that responsibility unless you know which group they were from. You see?

Yeah, I sort of got that part. That's why I'm fishing for more information. I'm curious. This behavior seems inconsistent with the protestors' M.O., but I've no solid information that it was the opposing faction.

And all this boots-on-the-ground militarism stuff seems kind of unlike you. And a little alarming.

... and I agree with Doc 100%!

I would like to see all the police in the states think and be like Doc, then the states would not have the biggest population of prisoners on the planet. 

 

In absolute terms, the United States currently has the largest inmate population in the world, with more than 2½ million^[11] or more than one in a hundred adults^[12] in prison and jails. Although the United States represents less than 5% of the world's population, over 25% of the people incarcerated around the world are housed in the American prison system.

Doc...it's neither uncommon nor particularly special.  'Mob rule' or what passes for rioting or political/social unrest ALWAYS has opportunists finding they can get away with something that would not be tolerated by ANYONE, no matter what country or 'political' faction.

Usually it's looting and/or vandalism, but you can be pretty bloody certain several of the collateral deaths, etc are simply 'now's our chance to get rid of someone we don't like...it's unlikely to be followed up'.

Reporters put themselves in the 'firing line' to either find news...or better still...be newsworthy themselves.  It's probably a mental affliction - a deathwish.

Our recent SAS VC recipient took out 2 machinegun emplacements to rescue a 'journalist'..... 

They stick themselves in dangerous places.... if they think this sort of thing isn't a possibility they are profoundly naive.  They also need to be aware that 'mob rule' pertains to EVERYONE, soldiers, police, rioters, even Journos.  She could as easily have been attacked by ANY of those groups.

There was in fact no difference to this criminal act than that which is perpetrated on women in Western society at the rate of once every few minutes...24/7.... other than the others are 'supposedly' under a controlled and Policed society, whereas this incident was during a period of social anarchy.

Neither is excusable....and neither will be solved by Military intervention...certainly not by what would be considered an invasionary force.

Would I like to remove the rapists' testicles and feed them to my cats?  Yes.  Would I condemn the whole mob/protest/country/people? No....

I agree with most of your post, but this section seems to carry some overtones of "she was asking for it". Everything I've heard about this story so far (which admittedly isn't nearly as much as I wish I knew) indicates that the victim was a serious journalist doing serious journalism, not one of those silicone-filled miniskirt "anchors". I do sincerely hope that you did not mean it that way- I've "implied" some pretty weird and scary stuff by mistake on occasion, too...

Of course it doesn't. I don't care what size or color socks (if any) they wore either. I want THE ONES WHO DID IT DEAD. I don't care if they wore Mets caps or tin foil helmets.

No. Effective: Yes.

Funny how you missed quoting how you contradicted yourself between #113 and #120. You miss that part of what I wrote?

You don't begin to know who I am, nor my values. When a mob gang rapes a woman, I don't sit around with one thumb up my arse and suck the other wondering the relative spin on electrons + or -. If you can, you get her the hell out of there and if you can't, you take out the max number the loudest way you can.

Boots on the ground? Yup. I fought in the 1973 war and in a bunch that had no official name... frightening? That was frightening. This? No. This (the woman and the mob) is disgusting and merits quick termination on the spot. There is no justification nor excuse for rape.

Jafo: Did I condemn more than those who perpetrated this crime? No. If it's 1, 10 or 200... the number is immaterial. The punishment and consequence of actions of prevention are what they are. The victim is to be protected. Victim: The female attacked. Perpetrators/s: Whoever and how many participated in the act. If none survive? Fine. If all survive to hang? Fine.

As for the rest of the mob (not participating in the gang rape) I couldn't care less: Nothing should happen to them as part of the prevention of the rape.I don't condemn the innocent, but I do not lose sleep over dead rapists.

 

Well said Jafo. 

Whichever group they sided with is partially responsible for their actions. However, it is impossible to assign that responsibility unless you know which group they were from. You see?

Of course it doesn't. I don't care what size or color socks (if any) they wore either. I want THE ONES WHO DID IT DEAD. I don't care if they wore Mets caps or tin foil helmets.


No. Effective: Yes.

Funny how you missed quoting how you contradicted yourself between #113 and #120. You miss that part of what I wrote?



You don't begin to know who I am, nor my values. When a mob gang rapes a woman, I don't sit around with one thumb up my arse and suck the other wondering the relative spin on electrons + or -. If you can, you get her the hell out of there and if you can't, you take out the max number the loudest way you can.

Boots on the ground? Yup. I fought in the 1973 war and in a bunch that had no official name... frightening? That was frightening. This? No. This (the woman and the mob) is disgusting and merits quick termination on the spot. There is no justification nor excuse for rape.


Jafo: Did I condemn more than those who perpetrated this crime? No. If it's 1, 10 or 200... the number is immaterial. The punishment and consequence of actions of prevention are what they are. The victim is to be protected. Victim: The female attacked. Perpetrators/s: Whoever and how many participated in the act. If none survive? Fine. If all survive to hang? Fine.

As for the rest of the mob (not participating in the gang rape) I couldn't care less: Nothing should happen to them as part of the prevention of the rape.I don't condemn the innocent, but I do not lose sleep over dead rapists.

I said too bad I wasn't there with my men. I didn't say "in uniform"..... I didn't say "too bad I couldn't organize an invasion". I've already been part of an invasion force in Egypt in 1973 as paratroop armored recon in Arik Sharon's Army Group. Don't wish to visit again. I said "If I were there..."n not "Wahoo, let's invade."

 

Tweet that sexist crap at 2 a.m. and then ask Nir Rosen to move over.

 

No...not 'asking for it'...but should have been 'expecting it'.

The reality of dangerous 'times' is people face actual/real danger.

It's so bloody frequent that Journos will want the 'money-shot'....facing a camera whilst over the left shoulder someone nukes Iran.  If I were in 'the thick of it' I'd be EXPECTING radiation burns at a minimum.

They get themselves blown away, shot, attacked and presume, what....some 'Journalist' card like Jimmy Olsen's in their cap is going to make them invulnerable?

Egypt does NOT have a monopoly on opportunistic thugs.  'our' Western culture is no more civilized.  Although the actual 'Riot Act' has only been read once on Australian soil [for example], the very necessity/existence of the Act is pretty damning.

No journalist no matter how attractive can be blamed for having been gang raped by sub humans. Yes, they are killed in armed conflicts and can be the victims of "collateral damage". Sexual assault is a different matter. Physical assault is a different matter.

I know you don't mean to say, "She was asking for it." because she wasn't and because you don't think that way.

Nowhere did I say Egypt has a monopoly on this. I did say, "Too bad I wasn't there with my brothers in arms. We would have made very short work of it and no one would be a repeat offender."

Good night all.